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Post by Bick on Jun 2, 2024 12:26:30 GMT -8
Some takeaways from this verdict I think we can agree upon to a greater or lesser degree... - Prosecution of this case was politically motivated
- May end up actually helping Trump get elected
- Lays the foundation for retaliatory prosecution
I'm not suggesting his innocence, but the selective prosecution based on political party seems clear. Hillary committed felonies but wasn't charged by Comey via his infamous characterization of extreme carelessness v. gross negligence. The ardent Trump supporters did a decent job of not rioting as suggested by some mainstream media outlets. I doubt most left-wing sorts would fail to recognize the difference between the heroic George Floyd riots and how right-wing sorts handle their disappointment - Jan 6 notwithstanding. That said, I believe many Independents and what's referred to as RINO's will see thru the weaponization of the justice system and reject left-wing leadership and policies and vote for Trump. I've not voted for him before but will this time around. What should concern everyone is the retaliatory prosecution being bantered about by those who are outraged by the verdict. Can't have this despite anger being felt. We can leave the "when they go low, we go lower" rhetoric behind. |
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Post by MDDad on Jun 2, 2024 12:31:50 GMT -8
- May end up actually helping Trump get elected . . .
. . . assuming that the courts decide that a convicted felon can indeed run for the office and be elected. In today's political and judicial environment, I'm not sure that's a given. |
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Post by Bick on Jun 2, 2024 12:39:15 GMT -8
You're right...even though it's not prohibited in the Constitution, it's not a given that certain AG's will attempt to remove him from the ballot. These states were already trying to remove him from the ballot - Alaska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. The cases in Arizona and Michigan were dismissed, but have been appealed.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 2, 2024 15:25:21 GMT -8
These states were already trying to remove him from the ballot - Alaska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. That's interesting. Why would red states like Alaska, South Carolina, Texas (WTF!), West Virginia and Wyoming (worth 58 electoral votes in 2020) want to remove Trump from the ballot? |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 2, 2024 17:04:00 GMT -8
It wasn't these states but efforts within the states...., big difference.
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Post by Bick on Jun 2, 2024 18:45:14 GMT -8
What's the difference?
Any thoughts on the verdict?
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Post by Luca on Jun 2, 2024 22:58:33 GMT -8
I’ve never voted for Trump either, and don’t think he has the temperament to be president. But these legal machinations are far more threatening than a Trump presidency itself. The precedent being set is damn near apocalyptic in terms of its potential damage to the nation’s future. I could never see myself voting for the guy previously, but given the tactics used by his opponents as well as seeing the near demented alternative there’s a pretty good chance I would vote for him this time around. …………Luca
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Post by SK80 on Jun 3, 2024 5:11:25 GMT -8
What's the difference? Any thoughts on the verdict? So many thoughts on this situation I'm paralyzed to speak on it to date. Anger to sadness. The weaponization of our branches of government are almost full circle now, after watching the CIA, FBI and now judicial systems have been weaponized for political purposes. The only thing left to be seen is if it finally hits the military in which the party in power uses military means against its opponents and/or citizens. Full blown Marxism/Communism is staring us right between the eyes. |
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Post by MDDad on Jun 3, 2024 8:03:32 GMT -8
Full blown Marxism/Communism is staring us right between the eyes. Yes, and the saddest part is that we are so complacent and satisfied in our comfort that we are offering almost no resistance or push-back to what is happening to the republic. |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 3, 2024 9:15:34 GMT -8
Full blown Marxism/Communism is staring us right between the eyes. Yes, and the saddest part is that we are so complacent and satisfied in our comfort that we are offering almost no resistance or push-back to what is happening to the republic. Agree, comfort can make one complacent, uncomfortable existence makes one uneasy.... |
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Post by billb on Jun 3, 2024 17:17:51 GMT -8
You're right...even though it's not prohibited in the Constitution, it's not a given that certain AG's will attempt to remove him from the ballot. These states were already trying to remove him from the ballot It is all our war against the guy, and you are right, there have been people in these states that have filed suits to keep him off the ballot. Also, he has received 200 million since the verdict. There are many wealthy donors picking him. Not everyone is invested in the swamp pet-projects. The U.S. Constitution does not explicitly state that a person convicted of a felony is barred from becoming President. The eligibility requirements for the presidency are outlined in Article II, Section 1, which stipulates that a president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, at least 35 years old, and a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years. |
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Post by billb on Jun 3, 2024 17:48:41 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jun 7, 2024 13:50:43 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jun 7, 2024 14:29:17 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Jun 7, 2024 19:42:35 GMT -8
The New York DA ran on the issue of getting Trump - publicly. Well, they got him. Georgia is another politically motivated trial, and so is the one in Florida. Since the verdict, seven days later, Trump has reportedly raised 400 million. He could reach 1 billion raised by July 4. If they handcuff him in July and take him to jail, I wonder how much he will raise then. But you see, if they take him to jail, then they can poison his water or food and kill him, or Jeffrey Epstein him? If they can take away his Secret Service, perhaps. It is all out war on his supporters and him.
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