Credo
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Post by Credo on May 20, 2020 13:53:46 GMT -8
This is one of the dumber things that a professionally dumb guy like Stelter has ever said. Considering that V.P. Mike Pence was made the head of the Coronavirus Task Force back in January, if Trump had been removed in February--making Pence POTUS--and with virtually everyone else in the CDC and all governors unchanged, the difference in response across the country would be.....ZERO.
A better question would be, How different would the media coverage of the pandemic be under a Democrat President?
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duke
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Post by duke on May 20, 2020 15:11:44 GMT -8
Morning Mika is supposed to be a professional, but her rant shows she is a very irrational, nasty woman. And she's a respected part of the MSNBC lineup. I wonder if she feels she just got caught up in the moment, or if she's proud of herself. Especially when moments like this are never lost in the age of the internet.
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thefrog
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Post by thefrog on May 21, 2020 5:14:29 GMT -8
Too good
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Credo
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Post by Credo on May 21, 2020 13:21:57 GMT -8
Fake News gonna Fake News
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Credo
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Post by Credo on May 21, 2020 16:32:33 GMT -8
Anyone who's tempted to blame Trump for "not responding fast enough" needs to be directed to this video:
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on May 21, 2020 19:42:28 GMT -8
Fake News gonna Fake News What is BS about that is that a huge percentage of the deaths occurred in nursing homes where governors had COVID infected seniors sent back in with the population there. Doesn't matter if you lock down or not, putting infected people into nursing homes was no different than throwing a grenade into them. Further, this virus is spread 500% more inside than outside. Locking down earlier could have started the increase in cases & deaths earlier. There is a distinct possibility that ignorance of the virus and being outside slowed its spread until the lockdown occurred.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on May 26, 2020 6:49:25 GMT -8
Former CBS News president: Most major cable news outlets 'unrelentingly liberal' in 'fear and loathing' of Trump The Hill ^ | 05 26 2020 | Joe Concha
Former CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter delivered a scathing critique of news outlets, saying two out of three leading cable news sources, in particular, "are unrelentingly liberal in their fear and loathing of President Trump."
Sauter, who served as CBS News president on two occasions in the 1980s, asked in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece published on Sunday whether a large segment of the public will "ever put stock in journalism it considers hostile to the country’s best interests."
“The highly influential daily newspapers in New York, Washington, Los Angeles and Boston are now decidedly liberal,” Sauter wrote.
“On the home screen, the three broadcast network divisions still have their liberal tilt. Two of the three leading cable news sources are unrelentingly liberal in their fear and loathing of President Trump," he added, appearing to refer to MSNBC and CNN.
“The news media is catching up with the liberalism of the professoriate, the entertainment industry, upscale magazines and the literary world. Recent arrivals are the late-night TV hosts who have broken the boundaries of what was considered acceptable political humor for networks," he continued.
“To the journalists, including more than a few Republicans, [the president] is a blatant vulgarian, an incessant prevaricator, and a dangerous leader who should be ousted next January, if not sooner," he later added.
Sauter, also a onetime president of CBS Sports and Fox News, also asked what media coverage will look like if Trump wins a second term.
“How will a large segment of the public ever put stock in journalism it considers hostile to the country’s best interests?” he asked.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on May 26, 2020 22:04:44 GMT -8
Looks like Yoel Roth, Twitter's Head of Site Integrity, disdains the people who live in "flyover states", which only make up most of America. Nice.
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on May 26, 2020 22:31:36 GMT -8
The comments to Roth's Tweet are excellent.
Who the F names their kid "Yoel"? What, was Noel too bland?
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on May 27, 2020 7:18:21 GMT -8
The comments to Roth's Tweet are excellent. Who the F names their kid "Yoel"? What, was Noel too bland? Definitely too SOMETHING. however, given the hatist crap in his post, Yoel stakes a claim to some of those same mental aberrations, so who’s to know.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on May 27, 2020 20:59:44 GMT -8
More on Twitter's mistaken attempt to edit Donald Trump's speech. If they are merely a platform then this type of censorship is impermissible. If they instead want to editorialize then they are a publisher and should be stripped of the legal protections from libel suits that they currently enjoy.
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Post by vilepagan on May 28, 2020 8:34:44 GMT -8
More on Twitter's mistaken attempt to edit Donald Trump's speech. If they are merely a platform then this type of censorship is impermissible. If they instead want to editorialize then they are a publisher and should be stripped of the legal protections from libel suits that they currently enjoy. 1. Twitter did not edit anyone's speech, nor did they "attempt" to edit anyone's speech. They merely tagged his post with a fact-check and provided factual information on the topic of his speech to counter the bullshit he was spreading. 2. Twitter did not censor anyone's speech. It doesn't matter if they're a "platform" or a "publisher". They run a privately owned website and they can monitor the content that appears on their site as they see fit. The trump administration is trying to bully them into complying with their wishes by threatening them and crying about 'free speech" like a bunch of idiots. They have no more right to say whatever they want on Twitter than I have to say whatever I want here.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on May 28, 2020 14:43:52 GMT -8
More on Twitter's mistaken attempt to edit Donald Trump's speech. If they are merely a platform then this type of censorship is impermissible. If they instead want to editorialize then they are a publisher and should be stripped of the legal protections from libel suits that they currently enjoy. But if Twitter is a private social media platform, like this is sort of, doesn't the owner have the right to do as he pleases? I sure as hell hope I'm not exposing myself to any litigation by NOT censoring as some other sites do.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on May 28, 2020 14:53:58 GMT -8
More on Twitter's mistaken attempt to edit Donald Trump's speech. If they are merely a platform then this type of censorship is impermissible. If they instead want to editorialize then they are a publisher and should be stripped of the legal protections from libel suits that they currently enjoy. But if Twitter is a private social media platform, like this is sort of, doesn't the owner have the right to do as he pleases? I sure as hell hope I'm not exposing myself to any litigation by NOT censoring as some other sites do. But legally they're not treated as a private publisher, who would be subject to libel for allowing malicious and false statements that they published on their platform (print or digital). Since Twitter portrays itself as a public platform--though privately owned--they cannot currently be held liable for any of their users' tweets. If they are going to get in the business of editorializing (like they did in trying to add a "fact check" notice on the President's tweet about voter fraud), then they're going to have to face the same liability as the New York Times or any other privately owned publisher would. Twitter does have the right to do as they please; however, they do not have a right to immunity from doing whatever they please. You don't censor things here, so you're safe; besides, the only person who would ever sue you here would be Vilepagan for self-inflicted abject humiliation and emotional distress.
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Post by vilepagan on May 29, 2020 2:37:32 GMT -8
So all trump's whining and crying about censorship and free speech was just a bunch of bullshit.
In reality you're a much bigger threat to this site than I am. I don't make a habit of posting things that might be considered libelous. Such behavior comprises a majority or your retweets.
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