tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Sept 6, 2024 11:54:14 GMT -8
TRANTIFAA portmanteau of “transgender” and “ANTIFA,” TRANTIFA is sometimes referred to as the “trans wing” of the infamous far-left ANTIFA collective. This group targets younger people to think they were born in the wrong body and should look into life-altering gender medicine treatments. U.N. investigator Reem Alsalem was concerned with TRANTIFA’s violent assaults against female athlete advocate Riley Gaines. TRANTIFA has been linked to an incident involving Gaines at San Francisco State University where trans activists ambushed and physically hit her, forcing Gaines to barricade inside of a classroom under police protection. *** snip*** x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1832106747928179188
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Post by tarmac on Sept 6, 2024 12:01:41 GMT -8
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Luca
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Post by Luca on Sept 6, 2024 16:52:51 GMT -8
I think they’re a modern and more pretentious offshoot of the Asheads (pronounced osh-eeds), a portmanteau of “assholes” and “shitheads”.
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 8, 2024 7:28:03 GMT -8
The underlying claim of those with gender dysphoria is that the brain & the body are not on the same page gender wise. Fine, I can accept that can & does occur.
The problem is that 100% of the time, those that treat this illness act in a manner that the brain is correct & the body is wrong, so the solution is to change the body to match the brain. Why is the answer never to change the brain to match the body?
While there are indeed adults who are mentally stable (in the most part) who choose to change their body, these folks can typically be identified by the way they make such changes. They are not the bearded "women" or "men" who look like 13 year old boys, rather they actually transform themselves to truly look like the gender they want to be, like Blair White did (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaire_White).
The remaining people who want to make such changes are obviously mentally imbalanced. When they do transition, it is done in a clownish manner, as if they are looking to be ridiculed & be classified as a victim of abuse. These are cases where the change needs to occur in the mind.
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Post by MDDad on Sept 8, 2024 8:44:27 GMT -8
Well said, RSM. I agree with everything you said, but I'm always left with the same questions:
The politically incorrect word for a "brain and body not on the same page gender wise" is delusion, and delusion is a form of mental illness. It may be common, benign and relatively harmless, but it is still a delusion.
If a person honestly identifies with and believes he is Elvis Presley, we don't expect the world to allow him to move into Graceland as his home and collect all the Presley royalties for the rest of his life. In the same way, if a person honestly identifies and believes he is Napoleon Bonaparte, we don't allow him to move into the palace at Versailles, depose Emmanuel Macron, and declare himself emperor of France. Yet when a person identifies as something other than what his body (i.e. reality) says he is, the whole world is expected to applaud, support and encourage that fantasy. Why? Why should such people be honored and celebrated with parades every weekend, as though they are some higher form of human life, or why should they be allowed to strut around naked in women's locker rooms?
I think part of the answer comes straight from Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. In order for the revolution to succeed, the institutions of society (e.g the traditional nuclear family, religion, patriotism, etc.) need to be destroyed, and the youth need to be confused (including sexually), because young people who are confused and have no grounding roots are much easier to manipulate. It may sound sinister, and I'm open to other theories of why millions and millions of people suddenly feel they are something they're not, but I'm fairly convinced it is externally imposed and encouraged.
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 8, 2024 20:39:42 GMT -8
True Gender Dysphoria is a mental condition that is different than the delusion you describe. It is NOT common & can occur in individuals who are otherwise mentally stable & rational. It is very different than the mental illness we are seeing now where people claim they can change genders, that men can become pregnant, etc. That latter category is indeed an offshoot of Marxism & is a delusion.
If you ever get a chance to read up or listen to Blair White, I would suggest it. She describes herself as a "trans woman" and says it is insulting to women to claim that trans women are women. She does not consider herself female, she is just more comfortable looking & acting in a feminine way, & by that I mean truly feminine, not a clownish, over-the-top type impersonation that someone like Dylan Mulvaney portrays.
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Post by MDDad on Sept 9, 2024 10:57:22 GMT -8
A delusion is defined as a false or misleading belief or judgement about external realities that persist despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. That is a broad umbrella, but I think the guy who's convinced he's Elvis and the guy who's convinced he's a woman both fit under it. They may be different types of delusions at some level of detail, but I think they both fit the definition.
As for guys like Dylan Mulvaney and his ilk, he's a guy making a comfortable living pretending to be a freak, and I suspect he's going to ride that fad as long as it lasts.
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 10, 2024 10:05:15 GMT -8
A delusion is defined as a false or misleading belief ...I think the guy who's convinced he's Elvis and the guy who's convinced he's a woman both fit under it... I think the point you are missing is that a person who has gender dysphoria has no delusions that they are a woman. Rather, they find themselves more comfortable fitting into a feminine role than a masculine one (and "comfortable" is probably the wrong word to describe it, should be something stronger like "drawn into"). Thats why the few who have this condition do not call themselves women, rather they call themselves (correctly) trans women. They are under no delusion that they are an actual female. These people are the minority of the "trans community" & have been overrun by mentally ill individuals who have claimed such an identity for a different reason or agenda. Again, give a listen to Blair White sometime. I first heard her on the Joe Rogan podcast (easy to find on Spotify) and was stopped in my tracks to hear her experience & opinions. She really draws a distinct line between those with gender dysphoria & those who are mentally ill. |
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Post by MDDad on Sept 10, 2024 11:21:48 GMT -8
I will give White a listen when I have some spare time. However:
I'm convinced the number of people who fit your rather specific and narrow definition of true gender dysphoria is incredibly small, and probably not increasing. The remaining "transgenders" that make up the current phenomenon are either mentally deluded (the few) or faking it (the many). I'm also convinced that those who are faking it are jock-riding this current transgender wave to make money off it, to grab their 15 minutes of fame, or to be part of the latest hot fad in-crowd for as long as it lasts. And it's augmented by the fact that so many of the younger members of that crowd are encouraged to do so by what should be responsible adults in education, entertainment and the media. The true "crime" in all this is that intelligent adults are pushing confused kids in the wrong direction, often to irreversible consequences.
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 10, 2024 13:26:42 GMT -8
I agree, in fact I think I wrote earlier that gender dysphoria is rare and it does not apply to most people who call themselves "transgender".
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