Luca
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Post by Luca on Sept 24, 2019 9:53:38 GMT -8
You guys will have to trust me here that I'm not trying to sound like a supercilious ass, but perhaps another approach might be more worthwhile.
The last several posts on this thread are reminiscent of the final days of TOB, with obvious animosity and far more heat than light. I can understand some of you are still irritated as hell at the turn TOB took and deprived us all of what had been a good even handed site where we could talk about sports and, during the off season, politics in general.
I think it was the national trend towards divisiveness and ideological rigidity that led JQ To start discriminating against unwanted opinions. But what's done is done.
We don't have to duplicate those insecurities here. If the pagan is being annoying, it's not that hard to outwit the man, if you feel the need. It's not necessary to resort to derogatory comments about gender preference and such. It would be like ganging up on MDDad because he's only an Austrian. It proves nothing, just adds to the fire.
It wouldn't hurt to have more opposing opinions around here such that we could all see different perspectives and might – God forbid – change minds. That's the purpose of message boards. I think..............................................Luca
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Sept 24, 2019 10:23:48 GMT -8
I agree with Luca in principle.
Where we might depart, at least temporarily, is on the Tx of trolls, such as vilepagan has been since I first encountered him in his own forum (where JQP found him).
I find different perspectives interesting, including those with which I disagree. I don’t like unsupported regurgitation of headlines or mantras because they will not lead to an intersection of ideas. This kind of mind-numbingly insipid flotsam doesn’t encourage engagement, never mind changing minds.
Yes, a free exchange of even opposing ideas, whether or not the purpose of message boards, is why I come here.
From what we have seen the last week, that is not why a vile person is here. Insofar as I can decipher his intent from his written words, his intent is to insult. I take great joy in noticing he will not respond to me. I believe he learned his lesson over in another community that I am better equipped for argument and debate than he is and that is, i assume, why he won’t engage me. Obviously, I could be wrong, but I don’t care. 🤷🏻♂️
Simply put, if anyone wants to act like a reasoned and sentient adult, that is how I respond to them (as almost everyone here will attest). If they want to wage their puerile war in here (because, in all likelihood, they miss us “over there”), then they can expect no better than they give.
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 24, 2019 10:49:49 GMT -8
You guys will have to trust me here that I'm not trying to sound like a supercilious ass, but perhaps another approach might be more worthwhile. It wouldn't hurt to have more opposing opinions around here such that we could all see different perspectives and might – God forbid – change minds. That's the purpose of message boards. I think..............................................Luca I completely agree Luca. I have chosen to not be the most welcoming person in my engagement with VP, not because of our opinion differences or his preference for men, but because of the way he chooses to interact with others. Similar to his posts on the other board, he can't just disagree with you, he has to throw in an insult or condescending comment. It is as if he takes it personal that not everyone in the world agrees with him and lashes out at every turn. Yes, I could have taken the high road and tried to be nice, but you know me much better than that . If I am on a forum with you & MDDad, I know that you two can be the voice of reason while I am the jerkoff engaging in the mudslinging. The ying & yang balances out the forum. As far as Vile being gay, please know that I don't consider that a negative or try to make fun of him about that. in fact, I have empathy and know that the snarky, lonely ass that he portrays on message boards is most likely a result of being teased as a child and ostracized as an adult (perhaps by his own family). I can easily see how the dude has probably had a rough time of it and is highly insecure. However the folks on this forum are not the ones who did that to him, so we really don't deserve the complete lack of respect he shows us in each and every response. He does need to man up and knock off the gay troll routine.
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