Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 8, 2019 12:49:05 GMT -8
Expect some lame cherry-picked response in about 6 hours that will imply that my support for Trump, my "lack of ethics", and my alleged "lies" contradict my never heretofore claim to "be a good Christian." (But I'm the one "making stuff up.") So predictable......
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 8, 2019 13:06:38 GMT -8
I see.
Well, only one variation can be right.
We do know what the whistleblower said as we've had access to their report for some days now. You are correct when you point out that we don't have access to the verbatim transcript of the call, but that's because it was placed in a secure server for safekeeping, which in and of itself may be a crime. Don't you think we should have a look at that transcript?
Also, today the WH moved to block testimony by the EU ambassador. This seems an odd move for an innocent person to make.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 8, 2019 13:08:18 GMT -8
Yes indeed you are. Unsurprisingly so.
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Post by MDDad on Oct 8, 2019 13:36:48 GMT -8
If only you had something to say about the topic of the thread. But apparently all you want to do is make stupid personal remarks. What a pity. And yet again you criticize someone else for something you do more than anyone, since you find it almost impossible to end a post without a personal jab or insult at your target. Do you really have so little self-awareness? I almost feel a little sorry for you.
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Post by Luca on Oct 8, 2019 13:56:50 GMT -8
I see. Well, only one variation can be right. We do know what the whistleblower said as we've had access to their report for some days now. You are correct when you point out that we don't have access to the verbatim transcript of the call, but that's because it was placed in a secure server for safekeeping, which in and of itself may be a crime. Don't you think we should have a look at that transcript? Also, today the WH moved to block testimony by the EU ambassador. This seems an odd move for an innocent person to make. So we apparently agree that I have no way of knowing whether false claims were made and we agree that only one variation of the truth can be right.
Since you did not dispute the point, evidently we both agree that we don’t yet know whether what the accuser said was false and we don’t know the precise conversation that took place. Hence we don’t yet know whether there were falsehoods in the accuser’s report or not. And, QED, you cannot know whether or not Credo was correct in his comments. We have opinions and speculation but we do not have certainty of what took place. ....................Luca
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Post by duke on Oct 8, 2019 14:35:59 GMT -8
You have no basis to make such claims. See, this is why your claims about a corrupt news media are so meaningless. When you have no ethics your claims about the lack of ethics in others are just laughable. Your penchant for telling lies also undercuts your claims to being a good Christian, but that's another topic. How can you say he has no basis to make such claims??? 3 years of the MSM and the Left lying about Russian corruption, and you still burying your head in the sand? Do you ever do any investigation on your own or do you just buy into the CIA and FBI and DNC lies that the Left keeps pushing that have all have fallen apart. Now they're trying the same routine with Ukraine. I bet you're all in on that one too. One thing that has been shown over and over in all of this. Whatever the Left accuses Trump of doing...………….they're the ones that did it or are doing it. From colluding with Russia, Ukraine, Quid pro Quo, Spying, and on and on and on. What is meaningless are your excuses. Same old crap VP.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 8, 2019 14:39:22 GMT -8
As long as Adam Schiff continues to selectively release misleading information from closed-door testimony, there's no reason to allow him to do the same with Sondland as he did with Volker.
Why won't Adam Schiff release the full testimony of Kurt Volker's testimony last week? Seems odd. Perhaps it's because the full transcript will undermine the false narrative he's trying to sell the American public.
Why won't Nancy Pelosi follow impeachment guidelines and take full House vote to officially open an impeachment inquiry?
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 8, 2019 14:48:59 GMT -8
You have no basis to make such claims. See, this is why your claims about a corrupt news media are so meaningless. When you have no ethics your claims about the lack of ethics in others are just laughable. Your penchant for telling lies also undercuts your claims to being a good Christian, but that's another topic. How can you say he has no basis to make such claims??? 3 years of the MSM and the Left lying about Russian corruption, and you still burying your head in the sand? Do you ever do any investigation on your own or do you just buy into the CIA and FBI and DNC lies that the Left keeps pushing that have all have fallen apart. Now they're trying the same routine with Ukraine. I bet you're all in on that one too. One thing that has been shown over and over in all of this. Whatever the Left accuses Trump of doing...………….they're the ones that did it or are doing it. From colluding with Russia, Ukraine, Quid pro Quo, Spying, and on and on and on. What is meaningless are your excuses. Same old crap VP. What's remarkable is that in asserting that I have "no basis to make such claims", what is ignored are the documented sources that were included in that original post. I know this may be annoying to some people, but you'll notice that almost all my posts on this thread are accompanied by links to independent new sources or tweets that link to the same sources that are, in fact, the "basis" for claims I make. I don't simply make accusations without plausible evidence. Now one can argue about the interpretation of the various facts of any case--but those facts remain, and to simply dismiss them and call the person who provides them a "liar" is nothing but circular (lack of) reasoning.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Oct 8, 2019 15:21:56 GMT -8
Yes indeed you are. Unsurprisingly so. You really are quite the junior high school girl, aren't you?
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Post by davidsf on Oct 8, 2019 16:00:41 GMT -8
Yes indeed you are. Unsurprisingly so. You really are quite the junior high school girl, aren't you? Yes, the old “I know you are but what am I” made famous in grade school, retrieved by anyone who cannot engage a reasoned argument... apparently, it has followed us over the hill from the kindergarten board. sigh.
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Post by Luca on Oct 8, 2019 17:31:09 GMT -8
David, I believe you are confusing the “I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?” line of debate with the more elegant “I’m-rubber-and-you’re-glue/whatever-you-say-bounces-off-me-and-sticks-to-you” rhetorical flourish.
Some consider them essentially the same philosophical approach, but the latter more sophisticated line of reasoning - utilizing as it does widely recognizable analogy - can be employed as late as junior high in certain conditions................Luca
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 8, 2019 19:44:24 GMT -8
Well, if you don't have anything new just keep repeating yourself. Maybe if you repeat it often enough people will start to believe you. The Democrats & the media used that strategy for years in regards to the Russia/Trump investigation, it didn't work out so well for them. The only ones that believed them are the progressive zombies. Are you part of that Jim Jones group?
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 8, 2019 19:48:40 GMT -8
You're not just a sinner who makes a mistake and asks the lord for forgiveness. You're an unrepentant sinner who repeatedly tells falsehoods and feels no remorse about it. You make baby Jesus cry.
I think you forgot to include "deplorable" to that list. It worked so well for Hillary. So not only are you able to read minds, but you can divine the state of a total stranger's soul. Impressive. You make baby Jesus cry? I'm sorry, but any able-bodied male who uses this phrase has officially forfeited his Man Card.
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 8, 2019 19:52:19 GMT -8
You're not just a sinner who makes a mistake and asks the lord for forgiveness. You're an unrepentant sinner who repeatedly tells falsehoods and feels no remorse about it. You make baby Jesus cry. Hang on there Homo Hank, you have no moral authority to preach to anyone. After all, you are Vile Pagan (boo, hiss), the baddest man on the internet, feared by all who roam message boards. Only an evil incarnate could come up with the horrifying name "Vile pagan", it sends chills up the spine of everyone who has any spirituality. Oh wait, you just look like the guy who works at Starbucks and makes little artwork in the cappuccino's...nevermind.
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 8, 2019 19:59:27 GMT -8
You make baby Jesus cry? I'm sorry, but any able-bodied male who uses this phrase has officially forfeited his Man Card. I believe he forfeited that card the first time he took a schwantz up his tookus...
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