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Post by davidsf on Dec 4, 2019 8:37:28 GMT -8
Let’s talk about how our families celebrate the holiday. What are your traditions?
I was a young teenaged kid in Southern California.
We were approaching Christmas and I just couldn't seem to get into the "Christmas Spirit." That year, the 75°, sunny skies, palm trees wafting in the breeze just wasn’t doing it for me.
I mentioned it to my mom, a wise and spiritually insightful woman, and she gave me the secret to experiencing the true spirit of Christmas. "Ask God to show you a need," she told me. "Doesn't matter how big or small, but find that need and fill it." That seemed simple enough, but she then added "and don't let anyone other than you and God know it was you who filled it. The purest definition of grace is to do something for someone else without any expectation of any reward, not even thanks."
Well, that was a bit more difficult, but I decided to give it a try and you know what? She was right. That Christmas and every Christmas since, I have asked God to show me a need no matter how big or small and fill it without letting anyone know it was me who filled it.
That last part is the more difficult part because not only do I want the recognition and the thanks, but some things are just seriously tough to get done without letting anyone know I'm doing it. But I manage somehow and unless you've also done something like this, you cannot imagine the reward you get.
I encourage you, my friend, to give it a try this year.
so what are your Christmas traditions?
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Post by Bick on Dec 4, 2019 9:31:48 GMT -8
The Mrs. bought pj's for the kids every year when they lived at home. As they got married, their spouses were included. And now that the grandkids are here, the list continues to grow.
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Post by davidsf on Dec 4, 2019 11:11:36 GMT -8
The Mrs. bought pj's for the kids every year when they lived at home. As they got married, their spouses were included. And now that the grandkids are here, the list continues to grow. My wife started that for our kids some years ago. We now have a young couple who hang out at our house so they have been included the last couple of years. my wife tries to match PJ’s to current interests every year.
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Post by RSM789 on Dec 4, 2019 16:35:12 GMT -8
We got married in 1986 and have created a few Christmas traditions starting that first year:
a) Our Christmas card consists of a staged picture of any non adults in the household (usually kids, sometimes pets) with a punchline. For example, for our boys first Christmas, the picture was the two of them in a sled with a "bag" of toys, being pulled by our two German Shepherd "reindeer". The card read "Elves hijack sleigh, film at 11:00". Not over the top humor, but cute. The non adult rule came about because I believe most people want to see kids growing up, not friends growing old.
b) I buy my wife two new ornaments for the tree every year, usually ones with some kind of motion or sound. It has gotten to the point where she now decorates 2 trees to fit everything.
c) My favorite tradition is watching my wife hang the Christmas lights on the house. She likes doing it & I have no interest, so it is a mutually agreed upon arrangement. It really pisses off the other women in the neighborhood, whose husbands question why they have to hang the lights when I don't.
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Post by Luca on Dec 5, 2019 11:35:01 GMT -8
I grew up in a very middle-class house with 2 older brothers and didn't know it until years later that we were the only Catholic family in an entirely Jewish neighborhood. I always used to ask my parents how come we didn't have one of those little Passover decorations on our door like all my friends.
So, often, we were the only house that would have Christmas lights and I used to be fascinated watching my father put them up. To this day I feel obligated to put up Christmas lights every year. It's a big damned house and all but one of my kids have moved out, but I still need to put up lights. I've spent as much as 3 entire days putting up Christmas lights in the past. It's so much work that I didn't do it last year and things just didn't seem the same to me or even the kids.
God only knows how much money I've spent on Christmas lights over the years and how often these "guaranteed for 10 years" lights last 2 years. And I'm never satisfied. I can always find more obscure places to put lights such that from a distance the place looks like Tokyo during a B-29 incendiary raid.
........And then the traditional arguments with my wife every fornicating year about my blowing too much money on Christmas gifts for the kids. She does have a valid point, but I always think of my parents and how excited I used to be as a little kid opening presents Christmas morning. So now I go Christmas shopping by myself and don't tell her what I'm doing. Around January 5th of each year she opens the mail and blows up at me all over again.
You're right about the Christmas ornaments. We make a big deal out of it every year and we've been collecting Christmas ornaments since we were first married. We have some that are up to 40 years old. Every time we go someplace we buy a Christmas ornament as a memory and now have some from all over. They make fantastic Christmas ornaments in communist China, by the way. I guess fervent political ideology is one thing, but profit is another. It's a great Christmas tree.
[From Dave: "Ask God to show you a need," she told me. "Doesn't matter how big or small, but find that need and fill it." That seemed simple enough, but she then added "and don't let anyone other than you and God know it was you who filled it."]
Your mother was saintly, Dave. And she was right. The office every year finds a few families that don't have anything for their kids for Christmas and asks them for Christmas lists for the kids. A collection is taken up and it always comes up pretty well short. The last few years I've just told one of the nurses to buy whatever the hell is on the list and send the remaining bill to me. I never know where the gifts are going or how many, but it's unquestionably the best money I spend all Christmas.........And my wife doesn't dare critique that expense...........................Luca
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Post by davidsf on Dec 5, 2019 12:24:47 GMT -8
Must’a been something in the California weather (or water), but when I lived out there, I was also caught up in the decorate the house mania. In fact, it became a point of personal pride to be the first house with Christmas lights in the neighborhood. (I had a gentleman’s agreement with two of the guys in the neighborhood that we couldn’t start before Thanksgiving).
I never arose to the Clark W Griswold level, but I could get pretty ornate. Even cut Plywood sheets into letters and figures for the front yard (sometimes drilled holes for lights, too)...
I think my wife and I have turned the corner on the Christmas spending deal, though: I’m the constraint, she’s the “each child has to have an even number of boxes” one. Lately, though, I’ve tried to make sure she gets a lot of gifts, too... but having retired, our income is not as robust as it has been in past years, so we have cut back out of necessity.
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Post by SK80 on Dec 5, 2019 12:44:51 GMT -8
Let’s talk about how our families celebrate the holiday. What are your traditions? I was a young teenaged kid in Southern California. Did you not have Christmas until your teens..... I too was a teenaged kid in Southern California but I was also a kid and before that a infant in Southern California! I grew up in an upper middle class lifestyle and I really had the best of both worlds in being my mothers side was all about the gifts, festivities, events, commercial side of the holiday, my fathers side being from war torn Austria were all about the tradition, the seasonal aspects and my grandmother being a florist for 50 years was all about the decorating and making sure everything here in So. Cal was winter like, Christmas like......, she recreated Tyrolian holidays! It was well into the 60's and my grandmother still insisted on real burning candles on the family tree! She has long passed but I still try and copy much of what she did, I still have many of her ornaments that she used going back to the 20's, 30's and 40's. My mothers side was all about big excessive gifts, they were west-siders (Beverly Hills) and drove big Cadillacs and the car was always packed with commercially wrapped gifts. My dads side still put out wooden shoes so that St. Nicholas could put out goodies. My grandparents retire to Laguna Woods and my dad every Christmas eve drove from CDM to grandmas and filled her shoes with goodies, mostly food, nuts and treats. Things that still stand out to me are running through the tree lots and playing in the flocking area. Don't tell me if you grew up in the 60's and 70's you never had a flocked tree! Another memory that always is revisited each year is the time I cornered my mom and made her tell me what I had figured..., there isn't really a Santa Claus! She was laying on the couch that day and she finally told me then warned me my Christmas was over if I told my younger sister. I felt so important and so much smarter than my dumb little sister who now was the only one fooled by the joke! My father was the best Santa ever. He was the guy up all night putting together the train set, or building a house out of Lincoln Logs or setting up a Susie Homemaker cooking kitchen for my sister. I still have that Lionel Train set in it's original box in my closet among many other things I've kept. Choo-Choo...!!
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Post by Luca on Dec 5, 2019 13:12:29 GMT -8
"My dads side still put out wooden shoes so that St. Nicholas could put out goodies"
What's that all about?
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Post by MDDad on Dec 5, 2019 13:30:43 GMT -8
In Dutch legend, St. Nicholas is the Santa Claus equivalent who brings children gifts on Christmas. They put out their shoes on Christmas Eve and he would fill them with fruit, nuts and candy if they had been good, or lumps of coal if they had been bad. The Austrian version obviously didn't use wooden shoes (as they were much more socially advanced), and the gift giver was named Christkindl (or Christ child). It's the name Americans later converted to Kris Kringle.
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Post by SK80 on Dec 5, 2019 15:24:55 GMT -8
Somewhere is all the family boxes i have old black and white photos of my dad and his brothers shoes on porch...... my grandmother being a decorator made shoes that I believe were wood, they were not shoes you wore. But they did that as well..., could you imagine putting out your Air Jordans. Yeezys or Gucci's today!
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Post by Luca on Dec 5, 2019 17:42:15 GMT -8
To be fair, you should explain to MDDad that those are actually types of shoes. He thinks a "Yeezy" is what you call it when someone yanks up your underwear from behind. Understand with him that you're dealing with a guy who has 23 pairs of brogues, usually with spats. They go well with that bitchen' raccoon coat...............Luca
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Post by MDDad on Dec 5, 2019 22:33:30 GMT -8
To be fair, you should explain to MDDad that those are actually types of shoes. He thinks a "Yeezy" is what you call it when someone yanks up your underwear from behind. Understand with him that you're dealing with a guy who has 23 pairs of brogues, usually with spats. They go well with that bitchen' raccoon coat...............Luca Says the guy who still dreams of someday owning a pair of Red Ball Jets.
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Post by Luca on Dec 6, 2019 9:46:58 GMT -8
Says the guy who still dreams of someday owning a pair of Red Ball Jets. As if to prove my point....................What the hell is a Red Ball Jet? Us non-octogenarians need to look it up. From what I can find on the Internet it looks like they predated raccoon coats. Do you still do your Christmas shopping through a Sears catalog?.................................Luca
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Post by davidsf on Dec 6, 2019 10:58:13 GMT -8
Getting a bit off topic, here, gents...
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Post by Bick on Dec 6, 2019 11:16:33 GMT -8
Getting a bit off topic, here, gents... Maybe so, but it's pretty damn funny.
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