tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Dec 11, 2019 13:40:51 GMT -8
The biggest FBI case sense the Rosenbergs and nobody but low level agents were working it? What did Comey and President Obama know and when did he know it?
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Dec 11, 2019 15:05:40 GMT -8
They both knew all along... from the inception of the plan.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 11, 2019 22:37:11 GMT -8
Damning testimony. Someone's going down for all this when Barr and Durham get finished.
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 12, 2019 3:36:04 GMT -8
Except of course it wasn't "testimony" at all...Barr was being interviewed by the WSJ...he wasn't testifying about anything.
And yet here you are forming your opinions NOW...what a surprise.
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Post by captaintrips on Dec 12, 2019 4:02:51 GMT -8
Damning testimony. Someone's going down for all this when Barr and Durham get finished. Those guilty most definitely should. Imagine if this this gross little plot had been carried out by ' republicans' against a newly elected democrat president ? I wonder if " the media" would be so busy serving ten thousand different flavors of CYA for THEM ?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ...it feels like we are in an episode of “The Twilight Zone ” in which Democrats' and medias' reality is the polar opposite of the truth. With straight faces, they authoritatively lie about every issue.
bad actors in the FBI, CIA, DoJ, State Department, and Obama administration illegally conspired to kick Trump out of the White House. These arrogant treasonous scumbags continue their unlawful assault on President Trump in plain sight while they appear on TV with their noses in the air -- talking down to We the People.
Immediately after Trump was elected, Democrats began their impeachment scam.
Spiritual wickedness is the root cause of Democrats' hatred for everyday Americans. Democrats vehemently oppose Trump restoring religious liberty, restoring our constitutional freedoms, securing our borders and governing in the best interest of the American people.www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/our_outrage_over_the_dems_impeachment_farce.html
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 12, 2019 8:14:24 GMT -8
captaintrips: Great piece from American Thinker.This is also a consequence of what Alan Dershowitz (one of the few principled liberals still standing) called the "criminalization of politics." Every policy disagreement the Left has with Trump is immediately called some sort of crime or violation of the Constitution (beginning with the temporary travel ban in January 2017). They've cried 'wolf' so much that no one is listening anymore. Dershowitz's Op-Ed on this from November 2017: www.nytimes.com/2017/11/28/opinion/politics-investigations-trump-russia.html
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Post by captaintrips on Dec 12, 2019 10:38:44 GMT -8
captaintrips: Great piece from American Thinker.This is also a consequence of what Alan Dershowitz (one of the few principles liberals still standing) called the "criminalization of politics." Every policy disagreement the Left has with Trump is immediately called some sort of crime or violation of the Constitution (beginning with the temporary travel ban). They've cried 'wolf' so much that no one is listening anymore.Dershowitz's Op-Ed on this from November 2017: www.nytimes.com/2017/11/28/opinion/politics-investigations-trump-russia.htmlExactly. They've lied, made up fake stories, cried wolf etc. for so long how can ANYONE take them seriously ? and Thanks to this current president People have been FORCED into an awareness about the double standard & corruption of how today's " media" handles things. As I said above; " Imagine if this this gross little plot had been carried out by 'republicans' against a newly elected democrat president ?
I wonder if "the media" would be so busy serving ten thousand different flavors of CYA for THEM ??" Only fools or liars aren't now aware of this ! Two things need to happen. 1. Democrats need to seriously lose ALL power for a long time. 2. The liars & manipulators in the " media" need to be ignored for a long time. That is up to the American people.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 14, 2019 15:17:52 GMT -8
Great article by Glenn Greenwald on the FISA abuse scandal that the Left and the media (one and the same) spent the last three years defending. No one can now deny there were numerous frauds deliberately perpetrated upon the FISA court by the FBI in order to spy on the campaign of the opposition party, all of which need to be prosecuted to full extent of the law. These kind of polic state tactics cannot be allowed to stand.
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 15, 2019 4:12:24 GMT -8
I can deny it because the report states that didn't happen despite your imaginary claims to the contrary. The report specifically states there was no undue political bias in the decisions made regarding Carter Page, the Dossier, and whether to investigate the trump campaign. No fraud was perpetrated on the court deliberate or otherwise.
I'm sorry reality doesn't agree with your "facts".
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 15, 2019 13:25:47 GMT -8
Adam Schiff is bald-faced (and bald) liar.
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Post by Credo on Dec 17, 2019 14:23:42 GMT -8
Jail time--starting with liar and leaker James Comey--is needed for those who knowingly perpetrated a fraud upon the FISA court. It's the only way to prevent this from happening again.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 17, 2019 22:39:07 GMT -8
The unmitigated arrogance of every one of the key players in the corrupt FBI leadership is amazing. No sympathy for her attempt to destroy patriots like Gen. Flynn and subvert the outcome of a Presidential election.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Dec 19, 2019 8:51:15 GMT -8
1. "No one is above the law"--unless you work for the government.
2. Those trying to "protect the institutions" by covering up criminal activity and malfeasance are only further destroying the public trust in those same institutions.
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 20, 2019 4:42:17 GMT -8
I couldn't agree more. When do you think the Republicans will stop defending trump? It would seem the evangelicals are beginning to wake up...what will it take for the Republicans to get their collective heads out of their collective asses? Some highlights from an editorial in Christianity Today... Trump Should Be Removed from OfficeBut the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.
The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.
Trump’s evangelical supporters have pointed to his Supreme Court nominees, his defense of religious liberty, and his stewardship of the economy, among other things, as achievements that justify their support of the president. We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath. The impeachment hearings have illuminated the president’s moral deficiencies for all to see. This damages the institution of the presidency, damages the reputation of our country, and damages both the spirit and the future of our people. None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character.
This concern for the character of our national leader is not new in CT. In 1998, we wrote this:
The President's failure to tell the truth—even when cornered—rips at the fabric of the nation. This is not a private affair. For above all, social intercourse is built on a presumption of trust: trust that the milk your grocer sells you is wholesome and pure; trust that the money you put in your bank can be taken out of the bank; trust that your babysitter, firefighters, clergy, and ambulance drivers will all do their best. And while politicians are notorious for breaking campaign promises, while in office they have a fundamental obligation to uphold our trust in them and to live by the law.
And this:
Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the President and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead.
Unfortunately, the words that we applied to Mr. Clinton 20 years ago apply almost perfectly to our current president. Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.
To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come? Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.htmlTell us why the author of this op-ed is wrong.
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Post by coach on Dec 21, 2019 10:56:52 GMT -8
The unmitigated arrogance of every one of the key players in the corrupt FBI leadership is amazing. No sympathy for her attempt to destroy patriots like Gen. Flynn and subvert the outcome of a Presidential election. She knows "Vile"? LOL Birds of a feather.....No we know where Vile gets all his information from!
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