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Post by MDDad on Dec 16, 2019 9:57:44 GMT -8
Yes, Fremont Junior High and Anaheim High.
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Post by davidsf on Dec 16, 2019 10:44:42 GMT -8
Yes, Fremont Junior High and Anaheim High. Gary Lindell, Vice Principal and disciplinarian at Anaheim High School, was a Family friend. he was the de facto Giver of the Swats at Anahi at least through my graduation in the 70’s.
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Post by Bick on Dec 16, 2019 10:49:25 GMT -8
I don't disagree but point out that for most of us "corporal punishment" was not allowed. That was long before the 70's. My butt cheeks can personally attest to the fact that it was allowed in California until at least 1968. Yeah, but how much did you have pay your shrink to overcome your damaged psyche from all the physical abuse?
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Post by MDDad on Dec 16, 2019 11:05:00 GMT -8
When I was a kid growing up, I doubt I even knew that shrinks existed. When you had trauma like getting your ass paddled in school, you sucked it up and got over it. No psychologists, no lawyers, no ACLU, no Gloria Allred, no outraged parents and no fake sympathy. It's one of the things that made you tough enough to face adulthood.
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Post by Bick on Dec 16, 2019 11:48:30 GMT -8
You got over it... by yourself???
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Post by MDDad on Dec 16, 2019 11:50:47 GMT -8
Yep, hard as it is to believe, kids are pretty resilient.
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Post by captaintrips on Dec 16, 2019 14:20:31 GMT -8
How ever did those poor children survive without safe spaces ? ?
No one around to help them with their sexual identity matters ? ?
I . . . I just don't know how the human race managed ... how we survived ?
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Post by captaintrips on Jan 27, 2020 6:50:47 GMT -8
Anti-police culture ... ? Why ? Maybe this is why.. MAYBE the court will stop allowing the police to destroy your home... wouldn't that be nice ? People don't know this. The police can destroy your home and YOU are left with a destroyed home. This is not right. We can hope courts change this, I wouldn't hold my breath though ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cops completely destroy innocent woman's home, but will Supremes force them to pay?Police officers in Caldwell, Idaho, destroyed an empty home in search of a man who wasn't there.
Now the Institute for Justice is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to order compensation for the woman who lived there.
A petition was filed with the high court asking for a new ruling in a case brought by Shaniz West.
"If you tell police they can go into your home, does that mean they can also legally stand outside and pepper it with shotgun-fired tear gas grenades – destroying everything inside?" the institute is asking.
"Shaniz's nightmare started when she stopped home with her children in tow one afternoon in 2014 to find her house surrounded by five local police officers. They told her they were looking for her ex-boyfriend, who was wanted on firearms charges. Shaniz said she didn't think he was in her home – he certainly wasn’t supposed to be – but she said that the officers could go in to see for themselves," the institute said.
"But the officers did not even try keys she gave them: Instead, they called in the local SWAT team and laid siege to the house, bombarding it from the outside with tear-gas grenades. When it was all over, Shaniz's home and all her possessions were destroyed and (just as Shaniz had said) the ex-boyfriend was nowhere to be found. Instead, the police had spent half a day bombarding and besieging a house that was empty except for Shaniz's dog, Blue."
With Shaniz left homeless, the officers said the destruction of the home had nothing to do with them and she could go somewhere else for help.
"Amazingly, the judge bought the police’s defense," the institute said.
IJ said it also is launching a new project "to ask the courts to reexamine doctrines giving government officials broad immunity from accountability."
"Government officials are not above the law, and if citizens must follow the law, the government must follow the Constitution – that includes being held accountable for violating it," said IJ lawyer Josh Windham.
The case is over qualified immunity, a creation of the Supreme Court in a 1982 decision.
"Under qualified immunity, a government official can only be held accountable for violating someone's constitutional rights if the violation is "clearly established." That means law enforcement officials can only be held accountable if a court has previously ruled that exactly what they did is unconstitutional – thus putting them on notice that they cannot do something, even if that something is clearly unreasonable, unethical, or unconstitutional. So, if a government official finds a new and unique way to violate someone's constitutional rights, there is little that can be done to hold the official accountable," IJ said.
"No judge has ever ruled that what these officials did to Shaniz was legal," explained IJ Senior Attorney Robert McNamara. "After all, anybody who has ever thrown a dinner party understands that an invitation to go inside your home is not the same thing as an invitation to destroy it. But under qualified immunity, courts say it doesn't matter whether a reasonable person would have thought they were acting legally. It only matters whether a court has already decided that an official who did exactly the same thing in exactly the same circumstances violated the law. If your exact case hasn't come up before, you're out of luck."
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in Shaniz's case, reached no conclusion.
"Qualified immunity means that government officials can get away with violating your rights as long as they violate them in a way nobody thought of before,” said Windham. "Government officials are not above the law, and if citizens must follow the law, the government must follow the Constitution – that includes being held accountable for violating it."
It's just one of several similar cases IJ is fighting.
The organization also is defending a Denver-area family whose home was destroyed by police searching for a shoplifting suspect.
Last fall, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit ruled against Leo and Alfonsia Lech of Greenwood Village. The panel said that as long as the government uses its "police power" to destroy property, it cannot be required to provide compensation under the U.S. Constitution’s Takings Clause.
WND previously reported the demolition happened in 2015 when Greenwood Village police responded to a shoplifting report at a Walmart. The suspect, Jonathan Seacat, fled into the Lechs' home. Police used a boom ram on an armored vehicle to destroy the walls of the house and expose the shoplifting suspect to snipers.
The home was left uninhabitable. The city condemned it, and the Lechs were forced to rebuild from the ground up.
The city offered the family $5,000.www.wnd.com/2020/01/cops-completely-destroy-innocent-womans-home-will-supremes-force-pay/
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Post by Bick on Jan 27, 2020 7:12:19 GMT -8
CT... I'm on board with this. In fact, I would imagine all of us here would be as well from the simple perspective of accountability.
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Post by MDDad on Jan 27, 2020 9:02:00 GMT -8
I believe the police should be held accountable as well. But I can't imagine how searching for a suspect would result in her "home and all her possessions were destroyed." Really? All her possessions? That sounds a little embellished to me.
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Post by Bick on Jan 27, 2020 9:13:16 GMT -8
I believe the police should be held accountable as well. But I can't imagine how searching for a suspect would result in her "home and all her possessions were destroyed." Really? All her possessions? That sounds a little embellished to me. I've seen first hand the aftermath of a police search, and being broken into by burglars. The latter was a lot less invasive. I agree the account above seems embellished, but a search warrant seems to carry with it a rider of "search and destroy".
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Post by captaintrips on Feb 9, 2020 19:41:53 GMT -8
Police Sergeants Union Tells Mayor de Blasio: 'We Are Declaring War on You'Mayor Bill has managed to torque off the New York cops... great job mayor !... I wonder, is he running for president too ? He should be if not ! ... don't the D's need another Dimwit ? Ding-bat... Dummy ... Dork... Anyway, enjoy this one it's fun. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . .."Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals," the SBA tweeted in response to de Blasio’s statement condemning the attacks. "You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!"
"Police are being targeted. The anti cop tone infecting our city & state is causing bloodshed. Before any public official sends their thoughts & prayers, they should ask themselves how the language & behavior they've been tolerating has contributed to violence against police," read another tweet from the SBA’s Twitter account.
Critics say de Blasio’s administration is to blame for the police hostility, pointing at the dramatic decrease of the stop and frisk policy and a new law that took effect Jan. 1 that eliminates pretrial detention and limits the use of cash bail for the vast majority of misdemeanor and non-violent felony cases.Citizen comments at end of article; " Nomolibs101 - Why is it that DemRat run cities are the most dangerous places to live?? Why?? Why do Sanctuary cities have the highest crime rates?? Why?? Why go cities with strict g u n laws have the most shootings?? Why?? BECAUSE THE LIBERAL DEMRATS DONT CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF AMERICAN CITIZENS!!! DEMRATS ONLY CARE ABOUT POWER!!! Snowflakes are too low IQ to comprehend that FACT!!!!" www.newsmax.com/newsfront/newyork-police-deblasio-war/2020/02/09/id/953322/
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Post by SK80 on Feb 9, 2020 23:19:20 GMT -8
C. Trippin' I thought we agreed to copy and paste a few paragraphs, main point, quote and then link and let us decide if we want to read an ENTIRE article!
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