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Post by davidsf on Feb 21, 2020 13:57:21 GMT -8
... THE ultimate Manchurian Candidate, The Antichrist... MDDad? Insufficient data at this time. |
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Post by davidsf on Feb 21, 2020 17:58:51 GMT -8
Dang it... JUST WHEN I ran out of popcorn.... wapo is reporting that Bernie Sanders has been made aware the Russians are trying to help his campaign... Washington Post article on MSN
So, let me get this straight... the Russians helped Trump in 2016, now want to help Bernie Sanders. The democrats hated Trump in 2016, manipulated the vote against Sanders, and want Bloomberg now? wont the democrats and the Russians cancel each other out? |
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Post by SK80 on Feb 22, 2020 1:18:25 GMT -8
The entire fallacy is that the Democrats if today want to move us towards a RUSSIAN model.... so if what they accuse Trump of ... week heck... they should LOVE Trump!
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Post by Bick on Feb 22, 2020 12:54:12 GMT -8
Clint just came out in support of Bloomberg. Trump had better not blast Clint on Twitter. Wouldn't at all make my day.
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Post by MDDad on Feb 22, 2020 13:32:03 GMT -8
The selective reporting and hypocrisy of the left continues on an almost daily basis. For example:
On Wednesday, Democrats applauded Elizabeth Warren when she chastised Michael Bloomberg because he had his employees sign nondisclosure agreements to keep them quiet. It was huge news in all the papers and other media outlets. Yet a day later, the Democratic Party insisted it's Nevada caucus workers sign nondisclosure agreements to prevent them from speaking out if the caucus results were in any way questionable, like the clusterfluck in Iowa. Strangely, that was hardly reported anywhere.
Withholding the truth and reporting news only favorable to "The Party" is a central tenet of fascism, so it's odd that the left would so freely toss around that term when speaking about conservatives.
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Post by Bick on Feb 23, 2020 9:41:21 GMT -8
I can see why Trump is propping up Bernie...he'd be up against it with Bloomberg.
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Post by Oakley on Feb 24, 2020 0:54:56 GMT -8
This is an area where MDDad & I agree. I look at it from the perspective that we should allow people with bad ideas to voice those ideas so they can be countered and shown to be bad. If we silence people or attempt to run them out of the country, then their being silenced becomes power for them. If I can't illustrate where your ideas fall short, I really should keep my mouth shut. A very reasonable approach, however many people with bad ideas have been shown to be bad people. The 2020 Democrat candidates have adopted ideas that are so far left they are anti-American and treasonous. They will not explain the benefits of their policies to US citizens nor will they engage in intelligent discussions if questions are asked. So, what are we to do when those with bad ideas not only refuse to listen, but instead turn away? How do we hold them accountable? How do we protect our country? |
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Post by SK80 on Feb 24, 2020 8:16:58 GMT -8
I can see why Trump is propping up Bernie...he'd be up against it with Bloomberg. Ideology wise Bernie is the one Trump as well as i want to see, I think this country is ripe for an all out, in your face, spotlight debate on Capitalism vs Socialism. Someone needs to pop that fantasy balloon guys like Sanders and Warren are preaching to the country's youth whom seem to be buying into it along with the help of the academia and teachers whom form their views, beliefs and prospectives. Not sure exactly what you mean by "up against it" Bick? Two New arrogant New Yorkers standing toe to toe? That would be about it physically on the same plane! Possibly financially? Bloomberg with his war chest, yes. Otherwise at this point (and things can change), Trump's personality will steam roll Bloomberg, the guy is simply a dolt. And do you really think the LEFT which is really in control of the party now (see Bernie's numbers) are going to endorse and turnout for a BILLIONAIRE (whom they despise conceptually and ideologically) whom is BUYING and election, as well as a former Republican and one whom may not be proposing to much FREE stuff. So far, handicapping, the Bernie thing tells me one of two things, the Democrats have gone so far left on the American political spectrum there is very little chance that holds in a General election. Or the voters in the party are not showing up due to the notion the candidates are just that bad, thus the only enthusiasim is in the far left camp and the centrist or middle of the pack liberal is not too excited, not enough to take out a incumbent President. |
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Post by davidsf on Feb 24, 2020 8:18:50 GMT -8
The selective reporting and hypocrisy of the left continues on an almost daily basis. For example: On Wednesday, Democrats applauded Elizabeth Warren when she chastised Michael Bloomberg because he had his employees sign nondisclosure agreements to keep them quiet. It was huge news in all the papers and other media outlets. Yet a day later, the Democratic Party insisted it's Nevada caucus workers sign nondisclosure agreements to prevent them from speaking out if the caucus results were in any way questionable, like the clusterfluck in Iowa. Strangely, that was hardly reported anywhere. Withholding the truth and reporting news only favorable to "The Party" is a central tenet of fascism, so it's odd that the left would so freely toss around that term when speaking about conservatives. The ardent left is into tag lines. Almost none of them make sense and, as you point out, they will not defend them because they cannot. |
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Post by RSM789 on Feb 24, 2020 22:28:12 GMT -8
... we should allow people with bad ideas to voice those ideas so they can be countered and shown to be bad... So, what are we to do when those with bad ideas not only refuse to listen, but instead turn away? How do we hold them accountable? How do we protect our country? I really am not interested in those with the bad ideas, rather those that they are trying to influence. For example, Bernie Sanders is a lost cause, no one will ever convince him of the error of his thoughts. However, the Democrats have tiptoed around him, never challenging his ideas and illustrating the issues with or horrible history behind them. Therefore, he has mislead millions of naive folks into believing that socialism is nothing more than being nice to your neighbor. The way we protect our country is to bring Sanders ideas out into the light of day and savagely defeat them. If Sanders wins the nomination, then Trump has the responsibility to show the millions fooled by Sanders exactly why Bernie is wrong. There will be a percentage who will refuse to listen, but if Trump does his job correctly, he can make an extremely positive influence on our nations conscience. However, there is no pussyfooting around it, Sanders ideas must be excoriated in full view of the American public in order to have the desired effect. |
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Post by MDDad on Feb 25, 2020 6:51:46 GMT -8
Bernie Sanders' performance on 60 Minutes Sunday night sure didn't do him any favors. He did not look good with that rosy cheek makeup, and he sounded worse.
Furthermore, his means of paying for his $50 trillion pipedreams collapsed even under the softball questions from Anderson Cooper. All he could keep saying was that the money would come from higher taxes on billionaires and Wall Street speculators. Just how many billionaires and speculators does he think we have? Or maybe he doesn't know what a "trillion" really means.
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Post by Bick on Feb 25, 2020 7:35:56 GMT -8
This is an area where MDDad & I agree. I look at it from the perspective that we should allow people with bad ideas to voice those ideas so they can be countered and shown to be bad. If we silence people or attempt to run them out of the country, then their being silenced becomes power for them. If I can't illustrate where your ideas fall short, I really should keep my mouth shut. A very reasonable approach, however many people with bad ideas have been shown to be bad people. The 2020 Democrat candidates have adopted ideas that are so far left they are anti-American and treasonous. They will not explain the benefits of their policies to US citizens nor will they engage in intelligent discussions if questions are asked. So, what are we to do when those with bad ideas not only refuse to listen, but instead turn away? How do we hold them accountable? How do we protect our country? As it relates to Bernie Sanders, we could rehash the story of Robert Owens and New Harmony, Indiana from a couple centuries ago. I think the most concise account of why that socialist community failed was there were a lot of thinkers, and not enough doers. Doesn't that sound familiar? |
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Post by davidsf on Feb 25, 2020 7:46:08 GMT -8
I agree about Sanders... he is a fool and vaguely reminiscent of one of the old men from the Muppet Show.
However, I also agree with Sarah Huckabee Sanders (no relation 🤔), that there are no guarantees in politics. Regardless of who the democrats prop up, we STILL have to get up off our GOP butts and vote.
I will feel pretty foolish if I don’t vote and Sanders wins by 1. (Yes, I know that can’t really happen, but you get my meaning)
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Post by Bick on Feb 27, 2020 21:00:51 GMT -8
... They live in an echo chamber. Classic
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Post by SK80 on Feb 29, 2020 8:25:25 GMT -8
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