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Post by Credo on Mar 30, 2019 14:22:28 GMT -8
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Post by Credo on Apr 4, 2019 19:46:12 GMT -8
Great piece by John Solomon in The Hill regarding the ongoing attempt to "dirty up" the President by exploiting details of the Mueller Report. There isn't any norm of ethics, law, or precedent the Democrats won't burn down in their effort to destroy Donald Trump.
And no matter the conclusions of the almost two year investigation, they will never give up the crack pipe of Russian "Collusion." They're too invested in this narrative to reverse course.
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Post by davidsf on Apr 5, 2019 6:53:24 GMT -8
This is why I believe Mueller pulled the plug too early. The democrat overlords are SO invested in this flawed narrative, they needed Mueller to continue into ... possibly right up to... the election.
Now, they really have only two choices: Acknowledge there is nothing there (which no one expects of these democrats), or double down in a vain and obviously ill-fated attempt to resurrect some shred of their dignity. The latter of which they have chosen.
As it turns out, Barr was smart in letting Mueller fizzle outmon his own.
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Post by Bick on Apr 5, 2019 14:58:51 GMT -8
Good Hill piece, Credo. This sums it up nicely.
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Post by not4u13 on Apr 6, 2019 6:13:44 GMT -8
I don't believe in conspiracy theories and I don't believe there was one that started the Mueller investigation no more than I believe that Trump was ever involved in any collusion. What I think the record shows is that Trump was careless (as is typical) and those around him wanted him elected any way they could. Hillary was a formidable opponent and they needed as much ammunition as possible to bring them down. Anyone that shared their goals to elect Trump were allies, even if they didn't share the same reason for wanting it to happen.
What Mueller found in his investigation was a lot of illegal activity and even more ethically questionable activity. That's what we have and that's what we'll see if the full report is ever released.
Trump has a much bigger problem though. NYC. That one is shaping up to be very interesting and Trump can't claim immunity and can't use his presidential pardon privilege.
Trump is unethical and a crook. Even if you like the job he is doing as President, how can we not all agree with that?
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Post by Bick on Apr 6, 2019 8:29:28 GMT -8
I've heard the Trump is unethical, and a crook thing for some time. So much so, it is being repeated as though it's a known fact.
What is the one biggest example of him being either?
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Post by MDDad on Apr 6, 2019 8:48:03 GMT -8
If you read The Art Of The Deal, you'll see that he's been an unethical conman for a long time.
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Post by Bick on Apr 6, 2019 10:06:30 GMT -8
I haven't.
What is your one biggest reason?
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Post by Credo on Apr 6, 2019 11:07:29 GMT -8
I don't believe in conspiracy theories and I don't believe there was one that started the Mueller investigation no more than I believe that Trump was ever involved in any collusion. What I think the record shows is that Trump was careless (as is typical) and those around him wanted him elected any way they could. Hillary was a formidable opponent and they needed as much ammunition as possible to bring them down. Anyone that shared their goals to elect Trump were allies, even if they didn't share the same reason for wanting it to happen. What Mueller found in his investigation was a lot of illegal activity and even more ethically questionable activity. That's what we have and that's what we'll see if the full report is ever released. Trump has a much bigger problem though. NYC. That one is shaping up to be very interesting and Trump can't claim immunity and can't use his presidential pardon privilege. Trump is unethical and a crook. Even if you like the job he is doing as President, how can we not all agree with that? 1. All of the investigations into "Trump-Russia Collusion"--both from the FBI in 2016 and its continuation in 2017 with Mueller were entirely based on fraudulent premises and never should have happened. The public record on this is indisputable. Whatever one wants to call it, this was clearly an effort originating within the Obama administration, based on anti-Trump bias, to damage the candidacy and then presidency of Donald Trump. Mueller did not charge one single person associated with Trump for any illegal conduct in connection with the 2016 election--because this never happened. If any one of us had 40 FBI agents investigating every orifice of our lives for two years, we'd likely be indicted on multiple counts of any number of statutes or process crimes. "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" is the stuff of police states and banana republics. The fact remains that there was NO (none, zero, nada) predicate crime to justify the FBI and Mueller investigations. 2. Name one example of unethical or illegal conduct by Donald Trump since he announced for President in 2015. |
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Post by davidsf on Apr 6, 2019 13:19:52 GMT -8
I don't believe in conspiracy theories and I don't believe there was one that started the Mueller investigation no more than I believe that Trump was ever involved in any collusion. What I think the record shows is that Trump was careless (as is typical) and those around him wanted him elected any way they could. Hillary was a formidable opponent and they needed as much ammunition as possible to bring them down. Anyone that shared their goals to elect Trump were allies, even if they didn't share the same reason for wanting it to happen. What Mueller found in his investigation was a lot of illegal activity and even more ethically questionable activity. That's what we have and that's what we'll see if the full report is ever released. Trump has a much bigger problem though. NYC. That one is shaping up to be very interesting and Trump can't claim immunity and can't use his presidential pardon privilege. Trump is unethical and a crook. Even if you like the job he is doing as President, how can we not all agree with that? To me, it is not a matter of whether or not I agree with it. all his personal shortcomings tell me is, he will never be nominated for “best really good guy” awards. “Even if like the job he is doing as president?” That is all there is and, frankly, I would really like to see what he can do if he has a Congress that is at least willing to deal with him, a congress that is not so relentlessly selling their hatred to the American public about him. I don’t like his personal behavior, I would love for someone to close down his mouth and his Twitter account. but I did not vote for him to be Prom King. The job I DID vote for him to do, he is doing. the rest of it, meh, I don’t care. |
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Post by Credo on Apr 10, 2019 19:35:29 GMT -8
Obama's WH counsel expected to be indicted on Thursday for FARA violations.
What goes around, comes around. Super tiny violin for Greg Craig....
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Post by Credo on Apr 11, 2019 19:12:34 GMT -8
Greg Craig, Democrat heavyweight, is being charged under the exact same statute as Gen. Michael Flynn, for allegedly lying to Mueller's team back in 2017. Why did Mueller not charge him at that time? Why sit on it for over a year and then hand it off to the U.S. Attorney's office in D.C.?
Because indicting Craig (who also worked with Paul Manafort on behalf of Ukraine) would have muddied the waters of the narrative of Trump-Russia Collusion, the perpetuation of which was Mueller's real purpose. Then after 22 months of destroying reputations and bankrupting several Trump aids he basically concluded, "never mind."
Mueller is another dirty cop.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Apr 11, 2019 20:07:09 GMT -8
John Podesta's brother Tony Podesta should be next. I believe Mueller referred him to the DOJ for some of the same crimes as Craig and Manafort.
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Post by Bick on Apr 11, 2019 22:52:14 GMT -8
I saw the actual Craig indictment posted by Tommy Tar over there, and wow...TT was immediately shredded by both vile and JQP for it. I assume this was Barr's doing?
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Post by ProfessorFate on Apr 11, 2019 23:33:29 GMT -8
I saw that too. I hope you don't mind, but I sent him a PM right after that, asked him if he knew about this forum. It appears it was intercepted. It doesn't appear in outgoing messages or sent messages.  |
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