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Post by duke on Jul 26, 2019 11:09:28 GMT -8
I hope the same Karma hits Schiff and Nadler who are still trying to perpetuate this farce for their own political gain and not just let it go for the sake of the country.
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Post by davidsf on Jul 26, 2019 11:53:58 GMT -8
Don’t know if you heard Nadler announcing they are requesting the Grand Jury evidence so they can “investigate the President’s misconduct.” Apparently his mind is already made up that there was misconduct, without one scintilla of evidence despite a 2-year investigation. So, two questions: - If his mind is already made up as re: Misconduct, why is further investigation needed? and
- Since his mind is already made up, can we expect a fair and impartial investigation?
Trey Gowdie retired way too soon. If he was still there, none of this would be happening.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 26, 2019 11:58:17 GMT -8
I'm reminded of the fact that it was only a few years ago, during the Benghazi investigations and Hillary's email and private server controversie, that the tables were reversed. Every time an investigation failed to turn up anything substantive, we were more than happy to welcome the next one, convinced deep down inside that all we needed to do was keep digging a little longer and the truth would reveal itself. Meanwhile, the liberal clowns on TOB were screaming that there's no there there, and that the whole investigative circus was a nothing-burger. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and it's them screaming for just one more investigation, because Trump just has to be guilty of something, while we're singing the nothing-burger song.
It seems national politics has turned into something like professional wrestling. Good guys become bad guys, and bad guys become good guys, while we sit on the sidelines and cheer and boo our favorites while Vince McMahon happily picks our pockets while we aren't looking. I'm becoming more and more convinced that all these national dramas are contrived to keep us diverted and entertained, much like the gladiator matches in the Roman coliseum, so we can't see the powerful rich getting richer and the rest of us eventually going into the toilet.
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Post by duke on Jul 26, 2019 12:17:57 GMT -8
I just started the book " Justice on Trial" by Mollie Hemingway and Carrie Severino. When you see what the Dems on that committee were attempting to do to Kavanaugh, it highlights a fact. There is absolutely no comparison between the Scum of the Democratic Party and what they will do and Republican lawmakers. To see you, MDDad attempt to make such a comparison is disheartening to me.
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 26, 2019 18:29:19 GMT -8
I'm reminded of the fact that it was only a few years ago, during the Benghazi investigations and Hillary's email and private server controversie, that the tables were reversed... I would suggest you are comparing apples to oranges. Benghazi was an actual incident which was investigated by politicians, who changed it into a political circus. Hillary's Private Server was an actual incident investigated by the FBI, who were later compromised as evidenced by a "secret" meeting between the head of the department and the husband of the accused. Russian Collusion by Trump never happened and was investigated by a special prosecutor, who treated it for the most part as an investigation. Politicians will never get anything done that goes against partisanship, hence no charges filed in Benghazi. I believe the military men who there and made their story public more than the politicians who gas-bagged after the fact. Hillary's server was corruption, plain & simple. Comey laid out a simple to understand case that she was guilty and for charging her, then made a conclusion 180 degrees opposite of the case he had just laid out. Check Loretta Lynch's bank account. There were charges filed in the Trump case, but not a single one connected to the reason why the investigation was initiated. People received jail time for procedural errors or lies or for old crimes that were committed before the persons involvement with Trump. Not only was Trump not guilty, he was not guilty of a crime that never occurred. Russian "interference" in the election keeps getting conflated with collusion, they are separate things. Collusion never occurred, so there is no way that Trump or anyone in his administration could be involved. Your premise is flawed, so your comparison is inaccurate. |
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Post by coach on Jul 27, 2019 8:43:00 GMT -8
I'm reminded of the fact that it was only a few years ago, during the Benghazi investigations and Hillary's email and private server controversie, that the tables were reversed... I would suggest you are comparing apples to oranges. Benghazi was an actual incident which was investigated by politicians, who changed it into a political circus. Hillary's Private Server was an actual incident investigated by the FBI, who were later compromised as evidenced by a "secret" meeting between the head of the department and the husband of the accused. Russian Collusion by Trump never happened and was investigated by a special prosecutor, who treated it for the most part as an investigation. Politicians will never get anything done that goes against partisanship, hence no charges filed in Benghazi. I believe the military men who there and made their story public more than the politicians who gas-bagged after the fact. Hillary's server was corruption, plain & simple. Comey laid out a simple to understand case that she was guilty and for charging her, then made a conclusion 180 degrees opposite of the case he had just laid out. Check Loretta Lynch's bank account. There were charges filed in the Trump case, but not a single one connected to the reason why the investigation was initiated. People received jail time for procedural errors or lies or for old crimes that were committed before the persons involvement with Trump. Not only was Trump not guilty, he was not guilty of a crime that never occurred. Russian "interference" in the election keeps getting conflated with collusion, they are separate things. Collusion never occurred, so there is no way that Trump or anyone in his administration could be involved. Your premise is flawed, so your comparison is inaccurate. I agree RSM....Hillary should have been totally liable for Benghazi and many other crimes. She should be in prison. Also, they just opened up all the documents on the Fast and Furious gun running scandal during the Obama administration with one of the TOP 3 most corrupt Attorney Generals in history eric holder, with janet reno being number 2 and Loretta lynch being number 1. |
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Post by coach on Jul 27, 2019 8:46:10 GMT -8
I just started the book " Justice on Trial" by Mollie Hemingway and Carrie Severino. When you see what the Dems on that committee were attempting to do to Kavanaugh, it highlights a fact. There is absolutely no comparison between the Scum of the Democratic Party and what they will do and Republican lawmakers. To see you, MDDad attempt to make such a comparison is disheartening to me. Exactly Duke! Where are they now? Nowhere to be found. They walked away with Millions in their pockets!!!!! Who says crime doesn't pay? |
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Post by coach on Jul 27, 2019 8:47:55 GMT -8
You pretty much nailed it. Mueller's entire operation was always and only an impeachment info-gathering job. It won't work and Robert Mueller will go down in history as the head dirty cop in the D.C. Establishment failed coup plot. I may have to disagree! Mueller was used and abused. Put Weisman on the stand! |
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Post by Bick on Jul 27, 2019 8:53:34 GMT -8
I'm reminded of the fact that it was only a few years ago, during the Benghazi investigations and Hillary's email and private server controversie, that the tables were reversed. Every time an investigation failed to turn up anything substantive, we were more than happy to welcome the next one, convinced deep down inside that all we needed to do was keep digging a little longer and the truth would reveal itself. Meanwhile, the liberal clowns on TOB were screaming that there's no there there, and that the whole investigative circus was a nothing-burger. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and it's them screaming for just one more investigation, because Trump just has to be guilty of something, while we're singing the nothing-burger song. It seems national politics has turned into something like professional wrestling. Good guys become bad guys, and bad guys become good guys, while we sit on the sidelines and cheer and boo our favorites while Vince McMahon happily picks our pockets while we aren't looking. I'm becoming more and more convinced that all these national dramas are contrived to keep us diverted and entertained, much like the gladiator matches in the Roman coliseum, so we can't see the powerful rich getting richer and the rest of us eventually going into the toilet. I'm with you on this as a rule. Politics, like news, has mixed entertainment into the equation. I suppose it's been there for a while, but it seems to have really gained steam in 2008. And now, it may very well be the centerpiece of it all. I believe we can point to the congressional job approval polls as a good indicator of how their actual accomplishments are being perceived. But yeah, the investigation tack appears to be the order of the day - just as it was during Obama. What were there, a dozen? Now I'll talk out of the other side of my mouth. Benghazi and Hillary's server seem like very clear transgressions. Beyond negligence of response / support, and intentionally misleading the public about the cause of the Benghazi attack, I'm not entirely clear what laws were purported to be broken. Also not clear if some classified reason of national security absolved Obama / Hillary. But to RSM point, it really DID happen, and we really DID NOT do much of anything to rescue them...IMO. With the Hillary server issue, it seems very clear that Comey took it upon himself to redefine the English language so as to avoid prosecution with the Gross Negligence v. Extreme Carelessness hair splitting exercise. |
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Post by SK80 on Jul 27, 2019 9:03:55 GMT -8
yada yada yada it always seems to point "protect" the Democrats, prosecute the Republicans.
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Post by Credo on Oct 8, 2019 22:15:11 GMT -8
So it turns out that Robert Mueller may have perjured himself in his testimony to Congress back in July. Looks like his "interview" with Trump the day before he was appointed Special Counsel was just a ruse that allowed him and Rod Rosenstein an opportunity to surveil his soon-to-be target. Even if he was sincerely seeking to replace Comey as FBI Director, this would clearly be a disqualifying conflict of interest. On a strictly legal point he should never have been appointed to investigate the President; he was also obviously incompetent, as his feeble performance in the House demonstrated.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 9, 2019 12:53:56 GMT -8
The truth is that Robert Mueller was a Republican who probably had a great many views I disagree with. That being said, he had a very long and distinguished career of service to this country starting in the Marine Corps in Vietnam. What you do is significantly more insignificant. You sit behind your keyboard and act like a middle-school dropout with very large chip on your shoulder. You're not fit to shine Mr. Mueller's shoes.
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Post by MDDad on Oct 9, 2019 14:13:34 GMT -8
Another Vilepagan post, and another Vilepagan personal insult. What a shock.
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 9, 2019 17:50:50 GMT -8
The truth is that Robert Mueller was a Republican who probably had a great many views I disagree with. That being said, he had a very long and distinguished career of service to this country starting in the Marine Corps in Vietnam. What you do is significantly more insignificant. You sit behind your keyboard and act like a middle-school dropout with very large chip on your shoulder. You're not fit to shine Mr. Mueller's shoes. - Not that it matters much to support what you are trying to write, but Robert Mueller is as much a Republican as Bernie Sanders is a Democrat.
- Doing good things at one point in your life does not excuse doing bad things later in your life. Timothy McVeigh is an extreme example of this.
- You are assuming Credo sits behind a keyboard. He may stand or he may have one of those fancy ergonomic chairs that kind of makes you kneel and is good for your back. You don't know which it is. In any case, you are spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
- Credo has said time & again that he prefers Fritos over chips, so the chance that he has a chip of any size, on any portion of his body, is completely unlikely. Once again, you do not know and are a blatant liar like Hitler.
- Mueller has a foot condition from fighting in the swamps of Vietnam and can now only wear fuzzy slippers. Fuzzy slippers can not be shined, you just end up with feathers and stuff all over and the polish smears. I bet you brought up polish because you like to wear blackface, which makes you a bigot and a racist.
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Post by SK80 on Oct 9, 2019 17:57:02 GMT -8
Damn RSM789 that be damn darn sizzlin'! Way to fry a guy....!
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