MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2020 9:48:44 GMT -8
If Trump took greatness out of a political playbook, it's too bad he didn't take the magnanimity part as well. So long as he is doing the job, and, every once in awhile, making fools of the Democrat politicians and their complicit media, I really don’t care if he is magnanimous. I don’t care if he is so childish he cannot put away his twitter account. I don’t care if he did or did not (and, honestly, I believe the latter) actually grab a girl by the [anatomy]... I can't tell you how disappointed I am to hear you say that. I'm surprised that someone with such strong religious values could so completely support a guy who's made it a lifestyle to break at least nine of the ten commandments regularly. |
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Post by SK80 on Feb 2, 2020 10:03:18 GMT -8
MDDad leaves us with this, come November you have but a choice, THE SINNER or the SOCIALIST !! 
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Post by RSM789 on Feb 2, 2020 10:23:36 GMT -8
RSM - I think I can top your psychopathic claim. My first sense of loss was more about ME I have been thinking about this on & off during the week and have come to the conclusion that yours (& my) reactions are healthier than immense feelings of pain following the death of a celebrity you have never met. To have deep, personal feelings about a person you have no actual interaction with is actually the psychosis. That is what stalkers do, the have imaginary relationships with people they have only seen on TV or in the media. What cemented my conclusion on this was the difference between the feelings I experienced when I heard that Kobe & his daughter died versus hearing that Sarah Chester & her daughter were aboard the helicopter. I'm not some heartless monster because i didn't shed a tear about the sadness of Kobe & Gianna being killed. That should be the normal reaction, just as it was when I got choked up once it was revealed that Sarah & Payton were also on the plane. Based on the relationship i have with the Chester Family, if I had felt no pain or sorrow for them, then that would be the mark of a psychopath. |
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Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2020 10:45:57 GMT -8
I agree. While I certainly felt enormous shock when I heard the news, my sadness and sorrow were much more for the children on the flight than for Kobe.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 2, 2020 13:06:09 GMT -8
So long as he is doing the job, and, every once in awhile, making fools of the Democrat politicians and their complicit media, I really don’t care if he is magnanimous. I don’t care if he is so childish he cannot put away his twitter account. I don’t care if he did or did not (and, honestly, I believe the latter) actually grab a girl by the [anatomy]... I can't tell you how disappointed I am to hear you say that. I'm surprised that someone with such strong religious values could so completely support a guy who's made it a lifestyle to break at least nine of the ten commandments regularly. One of my values is a president (or anyone) who does what he says he will do, So far, we have that. further, my values are my values, I don’t insist someone who might or might not hold them should evidence them. Obama claimed to hold similar values to mine, but I could not support him because he didn’t do the job. If vile-boy, a recalcitrant reprobate and a wart on the butt of humanity, were to somehow get elected President, I would support him IF HE DID THE JOB! Which we all know would be highly unlikely. and, I don’t “so completely support” Trump. I think he is childish and condescending and I fervently wish someone would delete that stupid Twitter account... but he’s doing the job, even against such ardent offenses thrown at him every day. |
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Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2020 13:08:47 GMT -8
And as a devout Christian, you have no problem with his making a mockery of the commandments?
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Post by captaintrips on Feb 2, 2020 13:58:53 GMT -8
What's the problem really though ??
ALL honest, devout Christians will even admit to "make(ing) a mockery" of the commandments regularly.
It's why Christ came and died for us, to save us.
People don't like the mans personality - I myself don't care for the businessman type, never have.
But to try to say that we should reject him because we're Christians and he is making a mockery of the commandments doesn't work, we all do that. Every president in our history has.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 2, 2020 14:13:13 GMT -8
And as a devout Christian, you have no problem with his making a mockery of the commandments? If I took exception to the breaking of commandments, I would be one lonely guy. aren't we really talking about extent here, though? you haven’t kept all of the commandments. Bick hasn’t, Zebra ... Credo...Duke...me... NO ONE has kept all the commandments. Your issue, or rather, what you are suggesting should be my problem, seems to be your perception that Trump has broken more of the commandments than [the rest of us]? the Old Testament law was given (all of it, not just the 10 commandments) to show mankind what it would take for us to be righteous in God’s eyes, righteous enough to make it into Heaven on our own. What the Jews ably showed, and what mankind continues to show even to and through today, is no one can do it. Jesus, the Christ, did it and, as His reward, He got nailed in the cross as the price for all of us, all of our sin. You (editorial “you”) cannot say this guy is worse than that guy because he didn’t sin (or break the commandments) as much as the other. It doesn’t work that way: In for a penny, in for a pound! We break ONE commandment, even just one, we merit eternal damnation and ONLY by accepting Christ’s gift of salvation can we escape the penalty... and I don’t know anyone who has committed just one sin. so, it is in error to say I have “no problem” with Trump sinning... or by the way, with you sinning or me sinning, etc... I expect us to sin. What I have a “religious” problem with is, those of us who sin, but do not seek redemption through Christ. What I have a political problem with, like I said, is an elected official who doesn’t do what we elected him or her to do. |
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Post by ProfessorFate on Feb 2, 2020 15:12:10 GMT -8
So long as he is doing the job, and, every once in awhile, making fools of the Democrat politicians and their complicit media, I really don’t care if he is magnanimous. I don’t care if he is so childish he cannot put away his twitter account. I don’t care if he did or did not (and, honestly, I believe the latter) actually grab a girl by the [anatomy]... I can't tell you how disappointed I am to hear you say that. I'm surprised that someone with such strong religious values could so completely support a guy who's made it a lifestyle to break at least nine of the ten commandments regularly. No one is perfect. We all will answer for our behavior (as it relates to the ten commandments). "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged"...I'll probably have to answer for that one day. Do I wish the president acted more magnanimously? Of course! But I don't think those attacking him 24/7 deserve to be treated magnanimously...Oops, there goes that judgmentalism again. I also give him credit for all he has done for religious freedom, and for protection of the unborn. God is, I believe, using Trump as a tool to carry out His Will. God works in mysterious ways. |
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Post by Credo on Feb 2, 2020 20:32:02 GMT -8
And as a devout Christian, you have no problem with his making a mockery of the commandments? With all due respect, this is the kind of question that is a specialty of VP. It's not my job to keep a list of anyone's personal transgressions. When Trump starts calling out his opponents for their Christian failings then we can talk. With the exception of the commandment prohibiting adultery I don't see any significant way Trump has flouted any of the other commandments any more than Barack Obama, or any other prominent politician. 63 million voters hired him not to be their pastor but to uphold the Constitution, something he has done better than any President in recent memory. Anyway, this is politics, not the ladies tea room of the Episcopal Church. In terms of policy, Trump is the best ally Christians have had since Reagan--and an even tougher opponent of the militant secularist wing of the Left. |
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