Bick
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Post by Bick on Feb 26, 2020 8:24:46 GMT -8
This issue gets touched upon on occasion, and as a relatively unabashed capitalist, I'd intuitively come out in support of the private system as the way to go. Simply speaking, a private, for-profit company has the incentive for financial efficiency. The public system has no such incentive.
As I understand the argument against private prisons, it is deemed to be "immoral" to make a profit from another person's incarceration. That argument could be supported by CCA's requirement of a 90% occupancy rate. How that ever got baked into the deal is beyond me, as THAT would provide the state / courts with the incentive of longer sentencing.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Feb 26, 2020 8:29:11 GMT -8
The state prisons and public schools are money laundering scams for the democrats. Much of that money come right back to the party leadership.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Feb 26, 2020 8:45:33 GMT -8
Yet the notion of PRIVATE in PRISON seems far fetched when you know that the GOVERNMENT would set REGULATIONS so extreme on these businesses it would either hardly be truly PRIVATE or it would be impossible to profit.....
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Post by MDDad on Feb 26, 2020 9:18:20 GMT -8
As I understand the argument against private prisons, it is deemed to be "immoral" to make a profit from another person's incarceration.Yet it's moral for drug companies to make billions in profits by selling medications in this country at five to ten times the price they charge in some other countries. It's moral for drug companies to make billions more by orchestrating the opioid epidemic in collusion with their intermediate wholesalers and distributors. And it's moral for health insurance companies to make billions in profits largely by limiting coverage and denying claims. I'd much rather have a company make profits from incarcerating hardened criminals and gang members, than to have them make profits off the human misery of innocent citizens. |
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Feb 26, 2020 9:53:48 GMT -8
True on the drug thing. But as it relates to private prisons, the guaranteed occupancy thing seems like a legitimate bust in the structure.
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Feb 26, 2020 11:08:34 GMT -8
As I understand the argument against private prisons, it is deemed to be "immoral" to make a profit from another person's incarceration.Yet it's moral for drug companies to make billions in profits by selling medications in this country at five to ten times the price they charge in some other countries. It's moral for drug companies to make billions more by orchestrating the opioid epidemic in collusion with their intermediate wholesalers and distributors. And it's moral for health insurance companies to make billions in profits largely by limiting coverage and denying claims. I'd much rather have a company make profits from incarcerating hardened criminals and gang members, than to have them make profits off the human misery of innocent citizens. I agree those examples are outrageous, but I’m not sure I’ve heard anyone refer to them as “moral.” i also don’t know enough about the public vs private prison issue to have an opinion (at least not yet an informed one)... |
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Post by RSM789 on Feb 28, 2020 20:08:52 GMT -8
Even though the government has the responsibility for the judicial system & incarnation, that doesn't mean they have to be hands on. I'd rather have a few bureaucratic busybodies overseeing prisons run by private companies, that way costs are low and the operations are transparent. It is easier to curb potential corruption of a few government employees in an oversight role than to try and clean of the current swamp of the government operated prison system.
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Feb 29, 2020 10:44:44 GMT -8
Even though the government has the responsibility for the judicial system & incarnation, that doesn't mean they have to be hands on. I'd rather have a few bureaucratic busybodies overseeing prisons run by private companies, that way costs are low and the operations are transparent. It is easier to curb potential corruption of a few government employees in an oversight role than to try and clean of the current swamp of the government operated prison system. I say, let Joe Arpaio build and oversee a “Joe’s Prison” in AZ, then after some successes, franchise the concept. |
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