RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Jun 20, 2020 8:54:21 GMT -8
It's truly funny to watch a bunch of old white men pretend they don't know that "Aunt Jemima" carries a lot of racist baggage. If you can't understand why companies might want to change their branding to something that can't possibly be considered offensive to some of their customers...well, you're not trying very hard to understand. But that's not surprising, you all do like to hear yourselves talk but you don't listen worth a damn. First off, it is prejudicial to assume that I and anyone else on this board is white or old. That shows the racist baggage inside your mind. Second, the racial baggage argument towards the mammy character of Aunt Jemima becomes disingenuous when one watches a Dave Chappelle set where he constantly refers to other people as niggers. "Nigger" is supposed to be this taboo word, but it turns out it is only taboo based on who is saying it. If all black people were offended by that word, Dave Chappelle would be unemployed, not held up as a genius. Yes, it might be offensive to some, but not enough to make Chappelle stop nor to make Netflix pull his specials off their platform. If it was known that Aunt Jemima was a product line offered by a company that was owned by black people and only employed black people, you would not hear a peep about any racial baggage. If you find no problem with that hypocrisy, you are supporting bigoted behavior. To allow or deny people the ability to use certain language without public damnation based solely on their skin color is actual racism. But since I buy Log Cabin syrup, does that make me racist for not buying the ones with mammy characters on them and not supporting people of colr? Or does it make me an enlightened social justice warrior for not giving my money to those racist companies? |
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Post by duke on Jun 20, 2020 9:07:52 GMT -8
It's truly funny to watch a bunch of old white men pretend they don't know that "Aunt Jemima" carries a lot of racist baggage. If you can't understand why companies might want to change their branding to something that can't possibly be considered offensive to some of their customers...well, you're not trying very hard to understand. But that's not surprising, you all do like to hear yourselves talk but you don't listen worth a damn. Aunt Jemima was a tribute to her. Not racist. You continue to be an idiot. Nothing changes with you. |
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Post by duke on Jun 20, 2020 9:12:00 GMT -8
The snowflakes are just going after statues, without regard for actual history, and are bent on destruction. Another worthy cause?
Protesters tear down statues of Union general Ulysses S. Grant, national anthem lyricist Francis Scott KeyProtesters in San Francisco on Friday toppled the statue of former President Grant, who led the Union Army during the Civil War, in Golden Gate Park. San Francisco police said that approximately 400 people gathered around 8 p.m. to take down the statue, though no arrests were made, according to NBC Bay Area. Also torn down in the park on Friday were the statues of St. Junipero Serra and Francis Scott Key, who wrote the lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner." thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503685-protesters-tear-down-statues-of-union-general-ulysses-s-grant-national |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 20, 2020 10:06:44 GMT -8
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 19:59:34 GMT -8
Cancel culture can work both ways. Jesse Kelly is doing a great job this weekend calling out all the racist connections to some of the liberal elites' cherished universities, suhc as Yale, Harvard, Brown, and Rice.
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 20:01:22 GMT -8
The snowflakes are just going after statues, without regard for actual history, and are bent on destruction. Another worthy cause?
Protesters tear down statues of Union general Ulysses S. Grant, national anthem lyricist Francis Scott KeyProtesters in San Francisco on Friday toppled the statue of former President Grant, who led the Union Army during the Civil War, in Golden Gate Park. San Francisco police said that approximately 400 people gathered around 8 p.m. to take down the statue, though no arrests were made, according to NBC Bay Area. Also torn down in the park on Friday were the statues of St. Junipero Serra and Francis Scott Key, who wrote the lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner." thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503685-protesters-tear-down-statues-of-union-general-ulysses-s-grant-nationalU.S. Grant was born into an abolitionist family, hated slavery himself, and defeated the Confederacy. The mob is just stupid. |
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 20:07:22 GMT -8
It's truly funny to watch a bunch of old white men pretend they don't know that "Aunt Jemima" carries a lot of racist baggage. If you can't understand why companies might want to change their branding to something that can't possibly be considered offensive to some of their customers...well, you're not trying very hard to understand. But that's not surprising, you all do like to hear yourselves talk but you don't listen worth a damn. Aunt Jemima was a tribute to her. Not racist. You continue to be an idiot. Nothing changes with you. True, true, true, and true. It's truly funny to watch supporters of the party that defended slavery, created Jim Crow, and opposed civil rights for blacks think that erasing an image on a syrup bottle is going to make people forget about that history or improve the life of a single black person. Do you have a longstanding record calling for this change, or are you just cravenly jumping on the bandwagon to make yourself feel virtuous, while lacking the courage to oppose cynical and profit-driven decisions of corporate America? And where is your data showing that there's some of longstanding outcry among blacks against the so-called "offensive" image of Aunt Jemima? Why is this only being considered now? Why not four years--or forty years ago? Why do you assume to know the minds of and speak for black people? Sounds pretty damn racist and condescending to me. |
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 21:18:41 GMT -8
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Post by MDDad on Jun 20, 2020 21:28:04 GMT -8
U.S. Grant was born into an abolitionist family, hated slavery himself, and defeated the Confederacy. The mob is just stupid. True, but he also married into a slave-owning family and was a slave owner himself. |
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 21:28:06 GMT -8
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Post by Credo on Jun 20, 2020 21:30:22 GMT -8
All of the cities where statues are being toppled my raging mobs are controlled by Democrats. All of them.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 21, 2020 21:31:51 GMT -8
First it was Aunt Jemima, then Uncle Ben. The latest decades old brand to bite the dust is Eskimo Pie, the chocolate covered ice cream bar, because, well, "Eskimo" is just too insulting a term and had to be banished.
The last three months represent the greatest example of national mass insanity I've ever seen. From the COVID overreaction, to the beatification of George Floyd, to the riotous "protesters", to CHAZ, to the firing of valuable employees because of things their spouses or children may have posted years ago, to the destruction of statues of long-time American heroes, to the current elimination of well-loved brands, this is madness on a scale that will be hard to top.
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 22, 2020 4:51:51 GMT -8
I have no doubt you'll try MDDad.
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 22, 2020 4:54:06 GMT -8
It's truly funny to watch a bunch of old white men pretend they don't know that "Aunt Jemima" carries a lot of racist baggage. If you can't understand why companies might want to change their branding to something that can't possibly be considered offensive to some of their customers...well, you're not trying very hard to understand. But that's not surprising, you all do like to hear yourselves talk but you don't listen worth a damn. Aunt Jemima was a tribute to her. Not racist. You continue to be an idiot. Nothing changes with you. What an absolutely ridiculous claim to make. You continue to talk but don't listen and you continue to be a moron. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when you want to tell blacks what they should be angry about. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 22, 2020 4:58:26 GMT -8
The snowflakes are just going after statues, without regard for actual history, and are bent on destruction. Another worthy cause?
Protesters tear down statues of Union general Ulysses S. Grant, national anthem lyricist Francis Scott KeyProtesters in San Francisco on Friday toppled the statue of former President Grant, who led the Union Army during the Civil War, in Golden Gate Park. San Francisco police said that approximately 400 people gathered around 8 p.m. to take down the statue, though no arrests were made, according to NBC Bay Area. Also torn down in the park on Friday were the statues of St. Junipero Serra and Francis Scott Key, who wrote the lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner." thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503685-protesters-tear-down-statues-of-union-general-ulysses-s-grant-nationalU.S. Grant was born into an abolitionist family, hated slavery himself, and defeated the Confederacy. The mob is just stupid. U.S. Grant's views on slavery were ambivalent. To portray him as "hating" slavery is just wrong. You're not as smart as "the mob". |
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