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Post by Bick on Mar 4, 2021 6:35:28 GMT -8
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Mar 4, 2021 8:59:43 GMT -8
Uh, the Civil War isn't in the Constituion either. I checked. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the best you could do. Brilliant. VP, I'm not going to be goaded into another contest of Civil War knowledge with you, as you've already demonstrated your ignorance of the subject in the Robert E. Lee discussion with some of the sources you cited. |
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Post by MDDad on Mar 4, 2021 9:00:45 GMT -8
The argument that secession isn't proscribed by the Constitution has been made before... Please cite section and verse. |
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Post by vilepagan on Mar 5, 2021 3:51:08 GMT -8
1. Your link is behind a paywall. 2. Are you seriously suggesting that Newsom advocated secession or even that he believes it's an option? I'm sorry Bick but that's just a ridiculous and absurd claim. |
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Post by vilepagan on Mar 5, 2021 3:52:00 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the best you could do. Brilliant. VP, I'm not going to be goaded into another contest of Civil War knowledge with you... I don't blame you. Still don't have an argument? |
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Post by vilepagan on Mar 5, 2021 3:55:44 GMT -8
The argument that secession isn't proscribed by the Constitution has been made before... Please cite section and verse. ROFL...sure. Dubuque Herald, November 11, 1860
This is one of the questions of the day, and it appears to be no longer a mere abstract or theoretical question. The Constitution makes no provision for secession. A Government is not a corporation whose existence is limited by a fixed period of time, nor does it provide a means for its own dissolution. The Constitution of the United States provides that it may be amended, and prescribes how this may be done, but it does not, as it exists now, contemplate its own destruction, nor a dissolution of the Government of which it is the living evidence. Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union.www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/teaching-resources-for-historians/sixteen-months-to-sumter/newspaper-index/dubuque-herald/can-a-state-constitutionally-secedeI hope you're happy.  |
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Post by Credo on Mar 14, 2021 21:33:54 GMT -8
Good people of California: This is what freedom looks like.
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Post by Bick on Mar 16, 2021 9:47:13 GMT -8
They're all going to die.
You can take that to the bank.
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Post by davidsf on Mar 16, 2021 10:00:09 GMT -8
They're all going to die. You can take that to the bank. Unless you aren’t black... Then, you don’t get anything. |
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Post by Credo on Mar 16, 2021 17:32:47 GMT -8
They're all going to die. You can take that to the bank. Within 50 years.....absolutely. |
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Post by Bick on Mar 16, 2021 21:17:05 GMT -8
They're all going to die. You can take that to the bank. Within 50 years.....absolutely. And here I thought I was passing along pearls of prescience. |
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Post by davidsf on Mar 18, 2021 7:07:18 GMT -8
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Post by mrright on Jul 9, 2021 20:27:11 GMT -8
when govt gets the people fighting each other...govt can get away with stuff
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Post by Bick on Sept 17, 2021 8:36:52 GMT -8
This won't likely happen in our lifetime, but I think it's a real possibility in our kids' lifetime. Sometime shrinking to viability truly is the best approach.
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Post by SK80 on Sept 17, 2021 8:48:24 GMT -8
I think people needs to be happy, one way I find happiness is pursuing my dreams and mostly using my freedoms. If I can not do so then I prefer to live somewhere, somehow where I can. If that is a divided United States then I would vote "break up". If we did a better job at being a Republic and giving states their protect rights, we would be better off, we could choose within the United States to be somewhere we might be better suited as to what we pursue or believe. Problem being if that were the case, in California it would not be a happy place for me. Thankfully I live in, near one of th remaining bastions of freedom.
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