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Post by davidsf on Feb 23, 2021 10:02:20 GMT -8
This contest has run through a number of threads, so it might be time to give it its own life, even if only to stop us from trashing other topics. Currently in the running (in no particular order): California, Illinois, New York Michigan And any others you want to nominate, but after this opening post, please provide evidence for your nomination. I believe Illinois is the current front runner for a number of reasons, amongst which are 1. The nearly impossible hoops we gave to jump through to recall anyone; 2. Our governors draconian COVID measures that he has repeatedly been caught ignoring; 3. HB3653-A bill that brings sweeping criminal justice and police reformsHB3653 was authored by the state House Black Caucus and was signed into law yesterday, by Governor Jabba the Hut. HB 3653: What's Included in the Bill Being Signed Into Law Monday
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Post by vilepagan on Feb 24, 2021 3:32:40 GMT -8
I think you might want to add Texas to your list after the winter storm debacle, and I think everything on the list you posted is a good thing...kudos to Illinois.
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Post by Bick on Feb 24, 2021 7:49:12 GMT -8
I'll try to find the data on net businesses and people leaving our moving to those states.
People often vote with their feet,and I think CA is #1
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Post by davidsf on Feb 24, 2021 7:55:41 GMT -8
I'll try to find the data on net businesses and people leaving our moving to those states. People often vote with their feet,and I think CA is #1 It has been a few months, but I’ve read articles that state Illinois is #1 in numbers (or maybe percentage?) of people leaving the state. You might have made up that shortfall in the months since I read that.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 24, 2021 9:13:59 GMT -8
This is the article I was recalling, it is from December but cites data from period ending in July... so, like I said, you might have caught us since then: ILLINOIS SEES WORST POPULATION DECLINE SINCE WORLD WAR II CA was third. the rest of the article has an interesting graphic, and a lot of good data.
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Post by MDDad on Feb 24, 2021 9:55:12 GMT -8
This is the article I was recalling, it is from December but cites data from period ending in July... so, like I said, you might have caught us since then: ILLINOIS SEES WORST POPULATION DECLINE SINCE WORLD WAR II CA was third. the rest of the article has an interesting graphic, and a lot of good data. That's an interesting map. If you dig down one more layer, you come up with what I'm sure is just a coincidence. States With The Largest Population Declines1. New York - Democratic governor 2. Illinois - Democratic governor 3. California - Democratic governor 4. Michigan - Democratic governor 5. Pennsylvania - Democratic governor States With The Largest Population Increases1. Texas - Republican governor 2. Florida - Republican governor 3. Arizona - Republican governor 4. North Carolina - Democratic governor, but Republican legislature 5. Georgia - Republican governor Hmm, kind of makes you think, doesn't it? Maybe the American people aren't as dumb as some would hope.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 24, 2021 12:26:55 GMT -8
This is the article I was recalling, it is from December but cites data from period ending in July... so, like I said, you might have caught us since then: ILLINOIS SEES WORST POPULATION DECLINE SINCE WORLD WAR II CA was third. the rest of the article has an interesting graphic, and a lot of good data. That's an interesting map. If you dig down one more layer, you come up with what I'm sure is just a coincidence.
States With The Largest Population Declines 1. New York - Democratic governor 2. Illinois - Democratic governor 3. California - Democratic governor 4. Michigan - Democratic governor 5. Pennsylvania - Democratic governor
States With The Largest Population Increases 1. Texas - Republican governor 2. Florida - Republican governor 3. Arizona - Republican governor 4. North Carolina - Democratic governor, but Republican legislature 5. Georgia - Republican governorHmm, kind of makes you think, doesn't it? Maybe the American people aren't as dumb as some would hope.Makes me wonder why we remain where we are...
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Post by MDDad on Feb 24, 2021 13:02:31 GMT -8
Hmm, kind of makes you think, doesn't it? Maybe the American people aren't as dumb as some would hope. Makes me wonder why we remain where we are... Because we're the ones who ARE as dumb as the left would hope.
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Post by Bick on Feb 24, 2021 13:48:06 GMT -8
Over here in Lala Land, at least we can use the climate as our reason.
What's your excuse, Dave?
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Post by MDDad on Feb 24, 2021 13:54:33 GMT -8
Yeah, Dave, what's your excuse? I'm sure you don't dine at Alinea every night.
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Post by thefrog on Feb 24, 2021 14:30:13 GMT -8
I’ve got the mountains and beach within driving distance.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 24, 2021 15:36:22 GMT -8
Over here in Lala Land, at least we can use the climate as our reason. What's your excuse, Dave? Yeah, Dave, what's your excuse? I'm sure you don't dine at Alinea every night. When I worked Automobile claims for a large multi line insurer, I was offered a promotion and a primo assignment here, training claims management. I had been here several times and knew a lot of people here and, back in the 80’s and 90’s, it was a great bedroom community so I took the job. The conventional routine at that time was we’d take the corporate job, hang in for a couple years, then go back out to the field at some elevated position. Unfortunately that door seems to have closed once I got here, and I net and married a local girl who gave me two kids. So, simply put, leaving sort of faded out of reality... much as I’d like to.
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Post by davidsf on Feb 25, 2021 18:34:51 GMT -8
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Post by ProfessorFate on Feb 26, 2021 1:26:06 GMT -8
Governments pull that kind of crap often and nearly anywhere. In Colorado we have a law that says we get to vote on any tax increase. The local govt. asked us to raise the mill levy rate. We voted yes for a certain amount of time (Two years, I think). After that it was to return to the lower rate. Well...that time came, and they would not lower it back to where it was. Their refusal to drop it amounted to a tax increase that we hadn't authorized. We fought it all the way to the Colorado Supreme Court, where the Democratic appointed jurists ruled, "Well, they voted for it once, so it's reasonable to assume that they would have voted for it again."
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Post by davidsf on Mar 7, 2021 18:55:55 GMT -8
More evidence Illinois is closing in on first place: I love James Woods!
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