thefrog
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Post by thefrog on Apr 13, 2021 20:20:29 GMT -8
So, like every policy during this pandemic, “we just don’t know.”
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billb
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Post by billb on Apr 13, 2021 20:38:42 GMT -8
So, like every policy during this pandemic, “we just don’t know.” True. Early on during the pandemic estimates were that 3 million people in the US would die from COVID. We are almost through the second season and are at about 500K dead, if that number is to be trusted. "We just don't know"....  There have been batches of J&J pulled from the market for several reasons. The latest reason I read was because it was mixed with the Astra Zeneca. If that is true, that is amazing. Plus, several countries in Europe have banned Astra Zeneca. Now the US could pause the J&J for good!!! The FDA has never approved an mRNA vaccine. Moderna switched from therapeutics to vaccines in the last decade because they couldn't get any of their therapeutics approved. Now we have an emergency approval and everyone is supposed to be vaccinated??? And now there is a pause in J&J? You know the administration fears there is a lack of confidence in the vaccines and the last thing they would want to do is pause one. Eventually all of the facts will be known, but right now there is a lot of grey area.... |
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Apr 14, 2021 9:17:25 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I believe the best protection against this and all the past and future viruses will be to improve your immune system.
Sleep
Exercise
Balanced nutritional diet - supplement if needed
And if you get sick, isolate yourself from others.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Apr 14, 2021 10:34:19 GMT -8
So, like every policy during this pandemic, “we just don’t know.” Except when the Powers That be "know for sure" that masks and lockdowns are the best protection against Covid (even when the actual science and data say otherwise). |
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Apr 14, 2021 10:35:49 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I believe the best protection against this and all the past and future viruses will be to improve your immune system. Sleep Exercise Balanced nutritional diet - supplement if needed And if you get sick, isolate yourself from others. The problem with such a common sense and time-tested approach is that there's no money to be made in it by Big Pharma and no power to be acquired by the petty tyrants of the political and chattering classes. |
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billb
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Post by billb on Apr 14, 2021 11:28:07 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I believe the best protection against this and all the past and future viruses will be to improve your immune system. Sleep Exercise Balanced nutritional diet - supplement if needed And if you get sick, isolate yourself from others. The problem with such a common sense and time-tested approach is that there's no money to be made in it by Big Pharma and no power to be acquired by the petty tyrants of the political and chattering classes. Oh wow Credo, that is exactly what I have been saying. |
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Apr 14, 2021 11:48:16 GMT -8
Always remember.....follow the money.
Or in other words, Cui bono?
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Apr 14, 2021 12:19:48 GMT -8
The MSM is pushing for a new lockdown. With young people getting the China virus in Mich, NY and NY and saying people can't get the shots. I believe we will see riots all over the nation starting early next month and a new spike.
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Post by SK80 on Apr 14, 2021 19:19:19 GMT -8
The MSM is pushing for a new lockdown. With young people getting the China virus in Mich, NY and NY and saying people can't get the shots. I believe we will see riots all over the nation starting early next month and a new spike.  |
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billb
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Post by billb on Apr 14, 2021 23:17:56 GMT -8
I had a customer today tell me he hasn't been feeling good since he got the vaccination. I asked when did you get it. He said THREE WEEKS AGO. I asked didn't you have the COVID a month or two ago? He replied YES and that that is how the doctor's office knew to call him. They told him that since he had the virus, now he needed the vaccine. Money money money.... Everyone is making money. I asked did you have to pay for it? No it was free. Yah, another taxpayer rip off IMO. I hope and pray he makes it through this. I watched a specialist say you should not get the vaccine if you recently had the virus. I didn't tell him that, but that was the first thing I thought about. Free tests and free vaccines for EVERYONE. Come and get it....
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Apr 15, 2021 6:37:46 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I believe the best protection against this and all the past and future viruses will be to improve your immune system. Sleep Exercise Balanced nutritional diet - supplement if needed And if you get sick, isolate yourself from others. The problem with such a common sense and time-tested approach is that there's no money to be made in it by Big Pharma and no power to be acquired by the petty tyrants of the political and chattering classes. The thing that's particularly galling is that there is no mention of "check with your doctor" before getting one of these vaccines. Just blind compliance without concern of any side effects. |
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Apr 15, 2021 13:17:45 GMT -8
The problem with such a common sense and time-tested approach is that there's no money to be made in it by Big Pharma and no power to be acquired by the petty tyrants of the political and chattering classes. The thing that's particularly galling is that there is no mention of "check with your doctor" before getting one of these vaccines. Just blind compliance without concern of any side effects. Just like everything else with Covid. If, as an otherwise healthy and low-risk individual, your personal physician advised you to go around wearing a mask all the time--which offers little or no protection in the first place--to protect against getting a virus with a 98.5% survival rate, you'd think he'd lost his mind. Or at the very least, you'd get a 2nd opinion. But if an physician-bureaucrat in Washington, D.C., who hasn't treated actual patients in decades, tells 300 million strangers to wear a mask all the time, it's called "Science." |
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billb
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Post by billb on Apr 15, 2021 23:05:31 GMT -8
Roman says that Orange County will be rolling out vaccine passports. Orange County?
Plus, Pfizer says they need to come out with a third dose, like mentioned elsewhere in this forum. Idiocracy, I tell you.
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billb
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Post by billb on Apr 16, 2021 10:24:25 GMT -8
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There have been batches of J&J pulled from the market for several reasons. The latest reason I read was because it was mixed with the Astra Zeneca. If that is true, that is amazing. Plus, several countries in Europe have banned Astra Zeneca. Now the US could pause the J&J for good!!! The FDA has never approved an mRNA vaccine. Moderna switched from therapeutics to vaccines in the last decade because they couldn't get any of their therapeutics approved. Now we have an emergency approval and everyone is supposed to be vaccinated??? And now there is a pause in J&J? You know the administration fears there is a lack of confidence in the vaccines and the last thing they would want to do is pause one. Eventually all of the facts will be known, but right now there is a lot of grey area.... 
