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Post by ProfessorFate on Sept 18, 2021 23:48:34 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Sept 19, 2021 11:51:49 GMT -8
You're racists, is what I am saying. I remember an interview will Bill Gates a few months ago when he was explaining why we needed global vaccinations. It was incredibly important to him - on a global scale.... But then a week or two ago a reporter asked him if he would give up his patents so small labs in foreign countries could afford to make the vaccine affordable for their country (I guess the US taxpayer isn't going to pay for everyone, even poor people in other countries). He told the reporter no way, the other countries might not follow the exacting standards necessary to produce a good vaccine (or something to that effect). Well, so not only does the efficacy of the vaccines wane, they also don't protect against the variants, otherwise why make a booster and another vaccine specific for the Delta? So the bottom line: Not everyone in the world will get the vaccine (it doesn't look like the US taxpayer will go that far). The vaccines wane. The vaccines don't work against the variants. So why have mandates for American citizens? It must be about the money. Can you believe that? Money is that important?
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Post by MDDad on Sept 19, 2021 12:50:28 GMT -8
Billb, can you explain your position? You seem to be very much against this vaccine and people getting vaccinated. What is it you want or expect? If it's a 100% guarantee that if one gets vaccinated he has a 0% chance of getting the virus, that's not how any respiratory virus vaccine has ever worked. So why are you demanding so much more from this one?
You have mentioned several times that this vaccine "doesn't work". The truth is that it does. It greatly reduces the risk of getting severely ill or dying if infected. What more do you want?
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Post by billb on Sept 19, 2021 23:40:22 GMT -8
So if the vaccines don't work, or even make things worse, should we mandate them? Should we implement vaccine passports? Push boosters and more shots?
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Post by billb on Sept 20, 2021 21:18:58 GMT -8
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Post by thefrog on Sept 21, 2021 6:42:09 GMT -8
I will say… what is the point of showing a vaccine card to get into a venue if the vaccinated carry the same viral load as the unvaccinated.
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Post by tarmac on Sept 21, 2021 7:37:35 GMT -8
It's not about the vaccine. It's about the passport or a digital marker to control where you go and what you do. Just like in China you will need your digital marker to shop, work and travel. The government will end cash and all financial transactions will be done through your cell phone. This is why we see big tech's hands are all over this.
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Post by thefrog on Sept 21, 2021 7:46:33 GMT -8
Disagree on the conspiracy stuff… think it has more to do with “encouraging” people to get vaccinated by cutting off access to activities people usually do…
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Post by Bick on Sept 21, 2021 9:14:20 GMT -8
Good news on the immigration front. The immigrants don't need a passport, vaccine or otherwise, because they don't plan on staying here long.
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Post by tarmac on Sept 21, 2021 9:51:19 GMT -8
Disagree on the conspiracy stuff… think it has more to do with “encouraging” people to get vaccinated by cutting off access to activities people usually do… Read about The Great Reset. www.weforum.org/great-reset/ This video is from the World Forum not from some far right blogger.
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Post by MDDad on Sept 21, 2021 10:40:22 GMT -8
I will say… what is the point of showing a vaccine card to get into a venue if the vaccinated carry the same viral load as the unvaccinated. Furthermore, what is the point of getting vaccinated or showing a vaccine card to get into a bar or microbrewery where you have to put on a mask?
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Post by billb on Sept 21, 2021 10:59:51 GMT -8
tarmac and Frog:
It is the World Economic Forum that is pushing us off the cliff. They are the danger. Their Great Reset is the danger. They have all the big money behind them. Like the video said, during the pandemic the wealth of the billionaires increased 25 percent while 150 million people entered poverty. Ironically, their agenda is forcing this and it is obvious they know it too. Most people don't like that video as of today 56K dislikes and only 6K likes. It cracked me up when Bill Gates said he was surprised the lockdowns hurt so many people. He is out of touch. They are all out of touch and while they justify their plans.
The great reset is control. Sure it is about money, but money leads to control. Do you want to be able to drive to Walmart, you need to buy a car. You need money to control your life.
Their ultimate goal is a passport. I think their best passport is the social credit score passport that would be a mix of your behavior (economic, political, and environmental). If you say the wrong thing they could place a hold on your bank account. I bet you will be able get a hearing to resolve it, but you wont understand the machinations behind the hold on our account? Did we say the wrong thing about a political puppet or use too much carbon?
The Pharaohs wanted control. The Roman Emperors wanted control. Hitler wanted control. Today's oligarchs want control, and they are using their Davos Group and its World Economic Forum to achieve it. "You will be poor and happy."
I don't want any part of their "Great Reset".
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Post by MDDad on Sept 21, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -8
If a person has billions of dollars, or more wealth than his next three generations of descendants can ever spend, why would he want a Great Reset that upends the very system that allowed him to reach the top of the wealth mountain? It makes no sense.
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Post by davidsf on Sept 21, 2021 12:16:37 GMT -8
If a person has billions of dollars, or more wealth than his next three generations of descendants can ever spend, why would he want a Great Reset that upends the very system that allowed him to reach the top of the wealth mountain? It makes no sense. George Soros isn't interested in money because, as you said, he already has way more than he could ever spend. Soros is interested in power: He brings nations to their knees because he can. He's been trying to bring the U.S. down for years, maybe even decades; but could never quite get the formula right until he started indoctrinating our children; and bringing on mutton heads like the Clintons and the Obamas kind os supercharged his efforts.
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