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Post by davidsf on Nov 6, 2021 8:14:23 GMT -8
Dave - why shouldn't we replace them if the technology makes the calls more accurate? What's the downside? From my perspective, Sports (in particular) events are contests of strength and skill and, of course, ability. Not only does technology detract from the human endeavor, but I believe we need to draw a line (and, for me, this is "a"line) to preserve the human endeavor aspect. FTR, I'm not a fan of instant replay, either. One additional thought. Human umpire blows a call, there is recourse, even if only a venting of the spleen. No technology will be/is 100%, but technology blows a call, no recourse.
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Post by MDDad on Nov 6, 2021 8:38:37 GMT -8
Well, it would drive up the unemployment rate.
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Post by Bick on Nov 6, 2021 13:37:52 GMT -8
Dave - why shouldn't we replace them if the technology makes the calls more accurate? What's the downside? From my perspective, Sports (in particular) events are contests of strength and skill and, of course, ability. Not only does technology detract from the human endeavor, but I believe we need to draw a line (and, for me, this is "a"line) to preserve the human endeavor aspect. FTR, I'm not a fan of instant replay, either. One additional thought. Human umpire blows a call, there is recourse, even if only a venting of the spleen. No technology will be/is 100%, but technology blows a call, no recourse. The question is this...is more accurate officiating better than less accurate / more random officiating? Why couldn't you have human oversight of the technology?
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Post by MDDad on Nov 6, 2021 13:47:41 GMT -8
If we accept human error and bias in ball-strike decisions, why not also accept it in our election ballot counting? It's part of the charm and nostalgia.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 6, 2021 13:54:37 GMT -8
From my perspective, Sports (in particular) events are contests of strength and skill and, of course, ability. Not only does technology detract from the human endeavor, but I believe we need to draw a line (and, for me, this is "a"line) to preserve the human endeavor aspect. FTR, I'm not a fan of instant replay, either. One additional thought. Human umpire blows a call, there is recourse, even if only a venting of the spleen. No technology will be/is 100%, but technology blows a call, no recourse. The question is this...is more accurate officiating better than less accurate / more random officiating? Why couldn't you have human oversight of the technology? If, as MDDad noted, umpires make 10%-30% blown calls, I don't see it as "less accurate/more random" officiating. I see it as manageable odds. I'm sure we COULD have human oversight of the technology, but why go to that extent? Why not have human oversight of humans? If one is concerned about reducing that 10%-30% human error, seems like that would do the trick. What is the end-game of Umpiring technology? I see it as eventually doing away with umpires, entirely. I say, let the athletes, athlete... no iRobots needed.
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Post by MDDad on Nov 6, 2021 14:07:45 GMT -8
On average, umpires make 300 to 400 ball-strike calls per game. That means something like 30 to 120 errors per game. How are those manageable odds, especially when we are outraged over one or two bad calls in other sports and other baseball plays?
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Post by davidsf on Nov 6, 2021 14:26:13 GMT -8
On average, umpires make 300 to 400 ball-strike calls per game. That means something like 30 to 120 errors per game. How are those manageable odds, especially when we are outraged over one or two bad calls in other sports and other baseball plays? To you? Probably not. To me and thousands of fans, including my friends who have played at that level, just part of the game.
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Post by davidsf on Dec 3, 2021 11:21:11 GMT -8
Dave - why shouldn't we replace them if the technology makes the calls more accurate? What's the downside? Further alienation of the human element of sports. Again, I am not one to leap at technology just because it is available. Athletic competitions are human endeavors, which means (to me) we get mistakes made: Some benefit us, others hurt us, but everyone has the same challenges.
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Post by davidsf on Dec 3, 2021 11:23:38 GMT -8
I'm not sure this is a "change" to MLB, but the result might be: About the Lockdown, from the Commish
Of course, this is one man's opinion and I would like to hear from the MLBPA, but I do understand why Manfred had to put this out right away.
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