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Mar 30, 2022 7:27:39 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Mar 30, 2022 7:27:39 GMT -8
I get the sense that few in the world, except for our own myopic lefties, put much stock in what Joe thinks.
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MDDad
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Mar 30, 2022 8:02:18 GMT -8
Post by MDDad on Mar 30, 2022 8:02:18 GMT -8
Sadly, Joe Biden seems to be declining almost by the week. He's the only person in the world who can eat ice cream as fast as he wants and not worry about brain freeze.
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Luca
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Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2022 14:06:09 GMT -8
Your first link starts off with the following passage: "Patients who took part in clinical trials at the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) had no idea that scientists at the institutes received $8.9m (£4.8m; €6.8m) in royalty payments and might benefit financially for the use of their discoveries by pharmaceutical companies and device makers, reports from Associated Press allege. [the bold emphasis was mine]If you think there is something wrong with this I would be interested in knowing why. If you are a researcher and develop a medication that is subsequently patented I don't see what the problem is with getting royalties on your results. Why shouldn't you? The implication I got from posts above were that some here believed that NIH employees who allocate NIH research money to researchers outside the NIH were receiving patent credit for discoveries they did not personally uncover, but that's not what the article says. I'm not sure what point you were making with this link. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to watch a 10-minute video to see what somebody is trying to say. If you could give me the Cliff Notes I'd be glad to take a look if you would like............................Luca
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Apr 1, 2022 14:34:13 GMT -8
Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2022 14:34:13 GMT -8
What? What coup? What dangerous biolabs? What is the Uniparty? And who the hell is Murray? The "coup" refers to the impeachment of Trump over his call to Zelynsky and then the stealing of the 2020 election. The Uniparty is the permanent elected class of corrupt politicians from both parties. Murray Rothbard was an economist of the Austrian School and a political theorist who was very active in the Libertarian Party. He died in 1995. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_RothbardAs for the biolabs: If Murray Rothbart died in 1995, then I don't know who the guy is who tweeted this comment but there are a number of unverifiable assumptions built into it. I clicked on the Tweet which featured an article from the Daily Mail. It made a number of ominous Implications about Metabiotica, the company under discussion. It characterizes the company as: "Metabiota, a Department of Defense contractor specializing in research on pandemic-causing diseases that could be used as bioweapons." [Emphasis mine]For the most part, this is what research labs do. When I was at UCLA I worked for a while with David Ho who was one of the researchers primarily responsible for developing treatments for HIV. I didn't consider that he was doing bio weapons research even though HIV is a "pandemic causing disease".. Infectious disease laboratories work with dangerous viruses/bacteria/parasites. It's what they do. It doesn't mean they're developing "bioweapons." That lab is by definition "dangerous" in that if any of the pathogens escape it could be a problem, such as likely happened at Wuhan. But the US subsidizing some of their research doesn't indicate that it's complicit in developing "bioweapons." It's a possibility, sure, but there's no evidence being presented here. I'd never heard the term "Uniparty" before, but I think the "stolen election" scenario pretty much fits into the same echo chamber as "Russian collusion." When conclusive evidence comes out I'd love to see it, but if even Bill Barr was unconvinced...............Luca
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Apr 1, 2022 23:29:22 GMT -8
Post by billb on Apr 1, 2022 23:29:22 GMT -8
Nuland seem frightened and concerned about the bioweapons labs falling into Russian hands in the Ukraine at the recent Senate hearings.
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Post by thefrog on Apr 2, 2022 7:09:29 GMT -8
Nuland seem frightened and concerned about the bioweapons labs falling into Russian hands in the Ukraine at the recent Senate hearings. So much, in fact, that we're protecting our assets at all costs... Oh wait.
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MDDad
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Apr 15, 2022 10:01:18 GMT -8
Post by MDDad on Apr 15, 2022 10:01:18 GMT -8
The images and stories coming out of Ukraine over the past two months bring to mind the horrors during the rape of Nanking by the Japanese army in 1937-38. Seeing and hearing of the atrocities every day makes me wonder:
Whatever ever happened to the United Nations, and what is its purpose today? United Nations peace-keepers used to be sent to combat zones to lessen the tensions and protect civilian rights. Where are they now? If the only purpose of the U.N. is to pass resolutions shaking their fingers at naughty nations when they do naughty things, what is the point?
And how shortsighted was it making Russia and China permanent members of the Security Council with the power to unilaterally veto any resolution that comes down the pike?
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Bick
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Apr 15, 2022 10:30:53 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Apr 15, 2022 10:30:53 GMT -8
It's the police force from Demolition Man
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Post by tarmac on Apr 15, 2022 10:31:23 GMT -8
As they keep us looking at Ukraine the docks are closed in Shanghai China. Hundreds of cargo ships are anchored of the coast. Our shelves will be empty by Summer. My AC guy can't find a new AC for my office. Paper, ink, printing plates, UV coating, forklift parts and glue all on back order. I telling you this is all being done to stall the 2022 election. They will say that can't print the ballots and the counting machines are missing parts so we need to vote online.
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billb
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Apr 15, 2022 18:17:44 GMT -8
Post by billb on Apr 15, 2022 18:17:44 GMT -8
Vote online. How convenient. We can trust that outcome, right?
As per Shanghai: I think there is a food shortage. I don't think it is an outbreak. We will see.
As per the supply chain issue: They (we) need a guy like Trump or DeSantis that can come in a fix things. I this problem is worse than the pandemic. I am investing what I can in inventory because prices are going up. My customers are having trouble finding parts OR they have to wait much longer. This is a big problem.
And then Fauci says we might need another lockdown? Crazy!!!
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Luca
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Apr 22, 2022 9:57:48 GMT -8
Post by Luca on Apr 22, 2022 9:57:48 GMT -8
I’m surprised how little interest there seems to be in the Ukrainian war on this board. Lots of commentary on the cultural wars, but the Ukrainian situation is as fascinating as it is dangerous.
The term "Nazi" is becoming overused is much as "fascist" is (I was called a fascist a couple years ago by a 20-year-old girl because I wasn’t wearing a mask). In fact in some circles they appear to mean the same thing. Making Nazi comparisons has become a cliche, but still I can’t help but notice a few similarities between Vladimir Putin and Adolph Hitler.
First, Hitler had his bizarre worldview that Aryans where the superior race and all people east of Germany were untermunchen (I think that’s the right German word). His total lack of understanding of other cultures led him to make catastrophic decisions for Germany. Likewise, Vlad the Bad – no humanitarian himself - seems to have convinced himself that Ukrainians are really just Russians being controlled by (of course) Nazis, and Jewish Nazis at that. So he launches his invasion assuming that Russian troops will be welcomed with enthusiam. Hey, what could possibly go wrong?
Second, Hitler underestimated the ultimate resolve of France and Britain (read "Winston Churchill") and was stunned when those Western countries were so belligerent as to actually follow-up on their promise to declare war if Germany invaded Poland. Similarly, Putin evidently assumed that NATO was so divided that they’d cower in the face of the majestic shock and awe campaign of the elite Russian military. So now the remainder of Ukraine and possibly Finland and Sweden will join a NATO alliance unified against Russia…………. Shrewd, Vladimir.
Third, Hitler completely overlooked the obvious deficiencies in his military and overruled the hesitation of many of his military advisors that perhaps it wasn’t such a great idea to invade Russia, given their enormous manpower reserves and the tens of thousands of square miles that would have to be occupied at the end of a very long and tenuous logistical chain. In winter. The Wehrmacht had efficiently overwhelmed smaller unprepared neighbors, but he didn’t realize Russia was a completely different prospect. Deficiency in logistics killed the German Army and lost the war. Likewise, Putin also seems to have had no clue how weak his army’s logistical situation was. It’s not clear whether he actually overruled his general staff because it’s believed that everybody in his inner circle won’t dare tell him anything that he wouldn’t want to hear, anyway. But if you’re going to make decisions like this, it’s your responsibility to know. The Russians blew their initial invasion plan because of crappy logistics. It’s impossible to believe that the general staff would not have known that. But Vladimir, like Adolf, made the facile assumption that his opponent was weak and would collapse before him. Georgia, Ukraine, like what’s the difference, y’know?
Fourth, Hitler was incapable of compromising or being practical because of his ideological zeal. Putin, the former KGB operative as unfamiliar with other cultures as I am with hieroglyphics, seems not to grasp that he’s way the hell underwater in the cost/benefit analysis of this war. There is no way this is going to end up to Russia's long-term advantage whether they steal a part of Ukraine or not......................Luca
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Post by MDDad on Apr 22, 2022 12:07:51 GMT -8
Luca, thanks for chiming in on the subject of Ukraine. I think there has been relatively little discussion because we have reached the point of "what is there left to say". I certainly think about Ukraine every day, but like it or not, we tend to think about the things that occupy the media.
First, the German term is Untermenschen, and it literally means "under people". In other words, subhumans. Unfortunately, subhumans do exist, but today it's more polite to call them progessive liberals.
Second, Putin's notion that "Jewish Nazis" are controlling Ukraine is historically laughable. It's an oxymoron that is both unlikely and offensive. He might as well have called out Jewish Muslims or canine horses as running the country.
Finally, I avoid talking about Ukraine because, as a human being, I'm embarrassed by what has been allowed to happen there. The western democracies have become as gutless as they are "righteous". I hate to think what would have happened from 1939 to 1945 if the leaders providing the resolve and inspiration to oppose the brutalities of fascism were Joe Biden, Boris Johnson and Emmanuel Macron rather than Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt and Charles de Gaulle. Vladimir Putin has counted on the pussification of the western powers to allow him to move unopposed by equal force, and so far he's been right.
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Post by billb on Apr 22, 2022 20:54:39 GMT -8
I was called a fascist a couple years ago by a 20-year-old girl because I wasn’t wearing a mask
.......Luca
You have to call the other person fascist first, otherwise you lose. Whoever calls the other fascist first wins.
But everyone knows that the people who don't wear masks are Nazi's not fascists.
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Post by Bick on Apr 23, 2022 6:45:29 GMT -8
I’m surprised how little interest there seems to be in the Ukrainian war on this board. Lots of commentary on the cultural wars, but the Ukrainian situation is as fascinating as it is dangerous. .... Fourth, Hitler was incapable of compromising or being practical because of his ideological zeal. Putin, the former KGB operative as unfamiliar with other cultures as I am with hieroglyphics, seems not to grasp that he’s way the hell underwater in the cost/benefit analysis of this war. There is no way this is going to end up to Russia's long-term advantage whether they steal a part of Ukraine or not......................Luca The Ukrainians have a deep seeded dislike for mother Russia that goes back to the holodomor, and I agree this won't work at all for Russia in the long run. Unless unifying NATO was part of the grand scheme, he screwed the pooch in the short run also. When Switzerland turns against you, you've crossed into some pretty bad territory. Hell, I think even MDD's Motherland finally typed its NATO military spend to the 2% Trump was rightfully bitching about. I have mixed feelings about the US sitting on the sidelines. On the surface, I think it makes us look like the feckless leader we currently have in the White House. Forcing NATO to act in its own defense v relying on us is having a very positive overall effect, and will hopefully provide a much more robust deterrent against the Putins, Husseins and Milosevecs of the world.
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Post by Luca on Apr 23, 2022 17:43:37 GMT -8
I was called a fascist a couple years ago by a 20-year-old girl because I wasn’t wearing a mask
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You have to call the other person fascist first, otherwise you lose. Whoever calls the other fascist first wins.
But everyone knows that the people who don't wear masks are Nazi's not fascists. You’re right. It was a rookie mistake. But she was too quick for me. It was actually an amusing interaction. I was going to ask her if she understood the definition of the term “fascist“ but I didn’t get the impression it was going to be a rational discussion.
In the midst of her harangue she said “You don’t give a damn about other people.“ And I had to respond “Of course. I’m a fascist, it’s what we do.“ It went downhill from there.
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