Ukraine

I have not weighed in on this because I am of the opinion that there is a case to be made for both sides.

As some of you know, I am on Gab.com. If you aren't aware, Gab is a Christian, Conservative, free speech platform. Most members are Christians first, and then they are anti-Democrat Party, (though those same people complain a great deal about the GOP also). Most are anti-mandates, anti-mask, anti Fauci, anti-globalism, anti-LGBTQLKJFPOWI3NVSkl/FM. They are pro-free speech, pro-gun, pro parents, pro-life, pro-America, America-First.

That description is over-simplified, and, of course, since it is a free speech platform, contrary opinions are heard there also.

Now, back to Russia and Ukraine. There was a poll posted there, the results of which were:

Are You...
Team Russia...38%
Team Ukraine...6%
Neutral...31%
Don't know/don't care...25%

I was in the 6%, so I was surprised by this. I mean, my impression is that Putin is a bad guy, who is the aggressor in this conflict. He allegedly has poisoned his opponents more than once, etc., etc.

But, here are some of the reasons the pro-Russia side mention:

Both sides are putting out propaganda that can't be trusted.

NATO kept advancing towards Russia, effectively putting Russia's perceived enemies on Russia's borders. Moldova, Belarus and the Ukraine are the only buffers Russia will have, except for Sweden, and Finland, who will probably join NATO now.

They see NATO as part of the New World Order globalist elite.

They point to Ukraine's Azov Battalion as being Neo Nazis.

They believe the USA and Ukraine are involved with making bio-weapons in the Ukraine.

They see corruption including bribery, money laundering (Hunter and Joe Biden family money?), and feel the Ukraine deserves some of the blame for the 2nd impeachment of Trump.

And mostly, they see that the same people who lied to us about Obama Care, Vaccines, mandates, vaccine passports, the deaths and/or medical problems caused by the jabs, the Wuhan Lab leak, the lockdowns for two weeks to "flatten the curve," (Deep Breath) etc., etc., are the same people who are telling us to side with Ukraine.

On the other side they see Putin, who is anti-globalist, Russia First, anti-LGBTQIA+ , has banned many of the big tech entities that have unfairly censored conservatives. That actually sounds like heaven to those of us who feel persecuted and attacked by woke idiots, perverts anti-white racists, etc. 

Here are...

A few excerpts from Putin's 2021 Valdai speech should hit home with many on Gab:
One more thing worth considering...Do we want to go to war with our Woke military, that fired many of our finest men and women because they wouldn't get jabbed? A military with who knows how many people who only joined to get free transgender surgery? A military led by a commander-in-chief who is mentally incapacitated, while controlling the nuclear football? No Thank You!

Anyway, these are some of the thoughts of those who are supporting Putin/Russia in this war, as well as those who don't see a good guy on either side of this war. 

Wow... Rational discussion over there with differing points of view.

I'm with you in the 6%, but for no other reason than to defend a country being attacked by an aggressor. I'm not pro Ukraine, and I'm not anti Russia, but I am pro sovereign borders, and anti invading countries.

I agree.  Disregarding the names of the countries involved and the fictional reasons for the invasion, when one sovereign nation invades another sovereign nation unprovoked and encourages the torture, rape and murder of civilians, including women and children, there's no moral way to take the side of the invader.  This is inhumane and criminal behavior.

If 36% of the United States citizenry considered themselves "Team Russia", I doubt anyone would support Russia invading the Untied States and engaging in the wholesale torture, rape and murder of the rest of us.

You know Prof, when I first looked at MDD post, I thought he was DIS-agreeing. When you read it quickly, the DIS of disregarding merged with "I agree". I DISagree. He needs to type a little slower next time so I can read it better

You actually tried listening.... 

We need a bump in GDP... the WAR MACHINE!

Although in theory I am behind much of what you stated, however in this case one can not compare invading Iraq in defense of Kuwait would play out the same as taking on or triggering Putin and Russia in eastern Europe. The counter arsenal in possession of Russia that could be used against us, Europe, the globe for that matter is a different playing field.