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Post by SK80 on May 24, 2024 4:41:16 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jun 5, 2024 7:31:19 GMT -8
Lawfare is currently being conducted by the left and the question before the right is whether or not to retaliate or take the high road.
Ordinarily is say take the high road, but this reminds me of what happens when criminals aren't held accountable for their actions.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 5, 2024 8:14:24 GMT -8
. . . the question before the right is whether or not to retaliate or take the high road. Taking the high road is often the noble thing to do. But not when the existential issue at stake is the continued survival of the republic, or it's conversion into a one-party police state. Then the high road just leads down the toilet, and it's time for a much more dramatic and drastic response.
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Post by billb on Jun 5, 2024 9:36:58 GMT -8
Interesting reply MD. There is a lot at stake. Great piece Bick.
The whole thing highlighted what has happened. It is difficult to pick a single quote, but...
The Democrats aren't that stupid are they? It seems like everything they accuse the Republicans of, they did it in spades. And in many cases, the Trump Admin never even did it. They remind me of a woman. Oh, did I just say that?
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Post by Bick on Jun 5, 2024 11:30:41 GMT -8
. . . the question before the right is whether or not to retaliate or take the high road. Taking the high road is often the noble thing to do. But not when the existential issue at stake is the continued survival of the republic, or it's conversion into a one-party police state. Then the high road just leads down the toilet, and it's time for a much more dramatic and drastic response. I was pretty much laughed at back in the TOB days when I suggested we were headed for a divorce / Civil War. Not so far fetched any more.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 5, 2024 11:35:26 GMT -8
I was pretty much laughed at back in the TOB days when I suggested we were headed for a divorce / Civil War. When a marriage hits the rocks, it can only be saved if both sides have the desire to reconcile and try again. I NO LONGER WANT TO RECONCILE WITH THE CRAZY LEFT, and I'm sure they feel the same way. We've discussed this before, and I still just don't know how a national divorce would work.
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Post by Bick on Jun 5, 2024 13:40:09 GMT -8
Hopefully we can figure it out before we kill each other.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 5, 2024 15:00:11 GMT -8
Hopefully we can figure it out before we kill each other. "Figuring it out" is another way of saying reconciling. If we simply had political differences with the left, that might be conceivable. But we have gotten to the point where we have entirely antithetical views of the world and its realities, as well as strong personal dislikes for each other. I think we may be past the point of patching things up because too many of us no longer want to.
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Post by SK80 on Jun 5, 2024 19:57:45 GMT -8
I have friends and family across all sides of the political spectrum, I always could co-exist with anyone, until now. Its really shaken me to the core. I was raised in a conservative environment, I traveled, lived, been educated in some of the most liberal environments in the world. I've never really had issues or distain towards those whom I consider friends, until recently. I think Covid had a hyper divisive element to it that is spilling over onto how we conduct, converse, interact amongst ourselves. I'm still awaiting for all those apologies I deserve for standing up and being now correct on most things Covid. Zilch, Nada, Nothing. Makes me bitter.
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Post by Bick on Jun 5, 2024 21:03:30 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jun 5, 2024 21:05:07 GMT -8
Hopefully we can figure it out before we kill each other. "Figuring it out" is another way of saying reconciling. If we simply had political differences with the left, that might be conceivable. But we have gotten to the point where we have entirely antithetical views of the world and its realities, as well as strong personal dislikes for each other. I think we may be past the point of patching things up because too many of us no longer want to. I wasn't referring to reconciling. I was looking for an amicable divorce. I would think both sides would want this.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 5, 2024 21:23:56 GMT -8
I wasn't referring to reconciling. I was looking for an amicable divorce. I would think both sides would want this. I understand that. But two people can divorce and move away from each other, while 330 million can't. I've heard of a national divorce now for several years, but no one has proposed a way it could be done logistically and geographically without forcing half the population to uproot their lives and relocate.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jun 6, 2024 4:52:32 GMT -8
Well, I know how the Dems tried to solve it. Instead of a national divorce, they tried to force compliance by those of us opposed to them. Their very first bill, H.R.1 Was called the "For the People Act." What a farce! It should have been called the "For the Democrat Party's Perpetual Reign Act." Or the "Thousand Year Reich Act."
H.R .1 Was designed to standardize national elections in all 50 states, to feature all the dream electoral designs of the Democrats so they would never lose another national election, ever again. Specifically, the bill expanded voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limited removing voters from voter rolls.
The bill also would have required states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.
In short...it would have made it easy for anybody (read illegal aliens and other non-citizens) to vote without IDs, and the so-called independent redistricting commissions would, I believe, all be formed the same in all 50 states, doing the biding of the party in power nationally. No more red states...just 50 identical blue states.
This was intended to be done in conjunction with Biden's open border policies, which was intended to lead to amnesty and a path to citizenship for probably 30 million new voters for the Dems.
The result of all this would have led to a one party rule probably longer than the 71 year reign of the same party winning the Mexican presidency, until Vicente Fox finally broke that streak with his win in 2000.
I'm inclined to think that if we can't get a divorce, then we must do to the Dems, what they tried to do to us. If we're lucky enough to gain control of the presidency, the Senate and the House, we need to tear down and rebuild the government, and there must be consequences for what's been done to us for the last four years, at least, because if there are no consequences for the harm they've done to us, then they will try to do it again if they get the chance..
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Post by Bick on Jun 19, 2024 9:06:24 GMT -8
I could read Victor Davis Hanson for days
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Post by billb on Jun 19, 2024 10:56:05 GMT -8
I suspect the left knows Trump will win. Their plan will have to be halt the vote count in PA, MI, WI, MN, and GA. There is too much money at stake. The pigs have been feeding at the trough. Also, if they can't cheat enough, they will pull an 11th-hour stunt like Obama did: remove the pause on gain-of-function research, or something to that effect. That will display their contempt for the country.
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