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Post by ProfessorFate on Jun 20, 2024 2:11:24 GMT -8
I suspect the left knows Trump will win. Not all of them. I visited TOB today, and those people over there post like they must be from some other universe. Either that or they're smoking some really good shit over there.
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Post by billb on Jul 13, 2024 16:36:40 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jul 13, 2024 18:01:12 GMT -8
Looked like the ear.
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Post by billb on Jul 13, 2024 19:04:12 GMT -8
If it was just a couple millimeters .... Reagan became even more popular after his assassination attempt. Can you imagine how people felt after the first Republican President, Abe Lincoln was assassinated?
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Post by Luca on Jul 13, 2024 21:09:36 GMT -8
As soon as I saw the photograph of Trump with blood running down his face, facing the crowd with his fist in the air and the American flag in the background it made me think of Rosenthal’s famous photograph of the flag raising at Iwo Jima. That photo is going to become iconic and we are going to be seeing a lot of it.
This episode is going to cause blow back against all the hysterical, apocalyptic rhetoric that’s been directed at Trump.
Nice job, Secret Service. The fucking kid was only 400 feet away with direct line of sight and spotted by attendees - but not the Secret Service - a few minutes before he opened fire………Luca
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Post by MDDad on Jul 13, 2024 21:43:32 GMT -8
I participate in a couple of group texts, and one of the first things I texted after some of the details came out was that today may have guaranteed a landslide in November.
On the other hand, please go and read the comments by the posters on OCConnect. I've always had a lot of disdain for the "progressives" over there, but their callous reactions to a near assassination make me want to vomit. With every passing day, I'm less and less eager for a reconciliation for this country.
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Post by Luca on Jul 13, 2024 23:02:53 GMT -8
Funny you’d say that…….
I was curious how our emotional ideological ex-counterparts might respond. I expect little, and they have never once failed me. As I said earlier, I just feel sad for Biden now with his dementing illness making him a focus of mockery, but it doesn’t even occur to these ideologues that it’s both depressing and ominous to see an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate. A former President, for Christ’s sake. The mindless hatred has taken on a quasi-religious fervor you rarely see this side of the Taliban. How the hell did I ever get suckered into what I thought was serious debate with that gang?
When my time comes and St Peter asks me “How did you demonstrate Christian ethics during your time on earth?” I’ll be able to say “Well, I DID get booted from OCConnect and earned an Orange asterisk.”
And he’ll say “What the hell are you doing here? You should be in the fast track line……… and incidentally, MDDad has been here for years, waiting for you”…………Luca
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Post by SK80 on Jul 14, 2024 7:00:23 GMT -8
That's funny Luca, MDDad will certainly be waiting for you inline for "fast track, it just wont be in a Tesla but a covered wagon in a wagon train!
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Post by Bick on Jul 14, 2024 7:54:35 GMT -8
Nice job, Secret Service. The fucking kid was only 400 feet away with direct line of sight and spotted by attendees - but not the Secret Service - a few minutes before he opened fire………Luca I think Dan Bongino goes off the rails at time, but he nails it with his insight on this. Already being discussed is yet another DEI hire failure at the head of the Secret Service. If THAT wasn't on full display yesterday.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 14, 2024 8:58:18 GMT -8
Luca and SK, scoff if you will. But a long life well-lived is always better than a longer life as a Loyola or Corona del Mar fan.
And yes, I'd rather wait in line at the Pearly Gates in a covered wagon filled in the back with beer and whiskey than in a Tesla with the battery running low.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 14, 2024 9:03:03 GMT -8
Already being discussed is yet another DEI hire failure at the head of the Secret Service. If THAT wasn't on full display yesterday. I agree, DEI is going to get people killed. If you watch that video closely, from the time Trump got up from crouching behind the podium until he disappeared into the evacuation vehicle, the actions of the female agents were an absolute joke. They looked utterly totally confused, terrified and not sure of what to do. It was pathetic, and they had no business being on that detail.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 14, 2024 9:34:18 GMT -8
I'd like to invite everyone here to visit OCConnect, where Wabash and Vilepagan are personally attacking me with all the vitriol and important sounding words they can muster. Yes, Wabash and Vilepagan, arguably two of the deepest thinkers of this generation. I'm honored that two such intellects would pull their heads out of their own assholes long enough to try and tear me a new one. If only their powder weren't wet.
They are good examples of what we are supposed to reconcile with.
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Post by thefrog on Jul 14, 2024 9:39:33 GMT -8
Constant comparisons to a dictator and Hitler and people are shocked this happened?
I'm shocked it didn't happen sooner.
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Post by thefrog on Jul 14, 2024 9:44:58 GMT -8
Constant comparisons to a dictator and Hitler and people are shocked this happened? I'm shocked it didn't happen sooner. I gave a morbid peek... can't believe VP still exists. Looks like he's obsessed with you in the latest posts. You should feel flattered.
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Post by Bick on Jul 14, 2024 10:07:17 GMT -8
Couldn't figure how to get a link to preview as in the past, so here's the full bit from someone who won't be confused with anyone over there...VDH
Assassination Porn and the Sickness on the Left If we were leftists and we were to use leftist tropes to editorialize the recent attempt on Trump’s life, then we would frame the assassination attempt in the following way: We have witnessed for years blatant exceptions to the once common custom that we don’t normalize the imagined killing of any president or presidential candidate and thus lower the bar of violence. But the Left constantly makes Trump an exception. Now, it as if the imagined killing of Trump had been mainstreamed and become acceptable in a way inconceivable of other presidents. (Do we remember the rodeo clown who merely wore an Obama mask during a bull riding contest and was punished by being permanently banned by the Missouri State Fair authorities?) So since at least 2016 there has been a parlor game among Leftist celebrities and entertainers joking (one hopes), dreaming, imagining, and just talking about the various and graphic ways they would like to assassinate or seriously injure Trump: By slugging his face (Robert De Niro), by decapitation (Kathy Griffin, Marilyn Manson), by stabbing (Shakespeare in the Park), by clubbing (Mickey Rourke), by shooting ( Snoop Dogg), by poisoning (Anthony Bourdain), by bounty killing (George Lopez), by carrion eating his corpse (Pearl Jam), by suffocating (Larry Whilmore), by blowing him up (Madonna, Moby), by throwing him over a cliff (Rosie O’Donnell), just by generic “killing” him (Johnny Depp, Big Sean), or by martyring him (Reid Hoffman: “Yeah, I wish I had made him an actual martyr.”). Or should we deplore the use of telescopic scope imagery, given that the Left blamed Sarah Palin for once using bullseye spots on an election map of opposition congressional districts, claiming that such usage had incited the mass shooting by Jared Lee Loughner? Yet, recently POTUS Joe Biden was a little bit more graphic and a lot more literal. In a widely reported call to hundreds of donors last week, Biden boasted, “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.” "In a bullseye?” At least, Biden did not go back to the full Biden beat-up porn of the past (e.g., “If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him"/ “The press always asks me, ‘Don’t I wish I were debating him?’ No, I wish we were in high school – I could take him behind the gym. That’s what I wish.”). Then there is the question of the Secret Service and one’s political opponents. Given the tragic history of the Kennedys, why in the world did the Biden administration not insist that third-party candidate Robert Kennedy, Jr. be accorded Secret Service protection? Because his candidacy was felt to be disadvantageous to Biden? And why just this April would the former head of the January 6th Committee and 2004 election obstructionist Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) introduce legislation ridiculously entitled, “Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable (DISGRACED) Former Protectees Act” to strip away Secret Service protection for former President Trump and by this April current leading presidential candidate?
Had Thompson’s bill passed, would that not have been confirmation for a potential shooter to feel his task was just made much easier?
But in a wider sense, if the common referent day after day on the Left is that Trump is another Hitler (cf. a recent The New Republic cover where Trump is literally photoshopped as Hitler), then it seems reckless not to imagine an unhinged or young shootist believing that by taking out somewhat identical to one of the greatest mass murderers in history, he would be applauded for his violence? So is their logic, shoot Trump and save six million from the gas chambers? After all, The New Republic defiantly explained their Hitler-Trump cover photo this way, "Today, we at The New Republic think we can spend this election year in one of two ways. We can spend it debating whether Trump meets the nine or 17 points that define fascism. Or we can spend it saying, “He’s damn close enough, and we’d better fight.”
Well, New Republic, recently someone took you up on your argument that Trump was “damn close enough” to Hitler and so he likewise chose to “fight”— albeit with a semi-automatic rifle.
If ad nauseam, a Joy Reid is screaming about Trump as a Hitlerian dictator ("Then let me know who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out of the White House”) or Rachel Maddow is bloviating about studying Hitler to understand Trump, then finally the message sinks in that a mass murderer is about to take power—unless.... Finally, the idea, if true, that bystanders spotted a 20-year-old on a nearby roof with a gun, a mere 130 yards from Trump, and in vain warned police of his presence, is surreal.
Is it all that hard for the Secret Service to post a few agents on the tops of a few surrounding buildings closest to the dais, or at least coordinate with local law enforcement to do the same?
That is a no brainer. Whoever made the decisions concerning the proper secret service security details for presidential events should be immediately fired.
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