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Post by nictoe on Oct 27, 2022 7:16:09 GMT -8
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Post by SK80 on Oct 27, 2022 8:24:18 GMT -8
Tell us it aint so, don't want MDDad to secretly mark be forced to check the box for Ol' Joe...
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Post by nictoe on Oct 27, 2022 8:44:33 GMT -8
They'll have to substitute an avatar for Sleepy Joe at the time. He just won't cut it when he reaches that age.
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Post by MDDad on Oct 27, 2022 8:50:35 GMT -8
Hopefully both of them will be dumped on the scrap heap of history in two years -- Biden because he's a senile geezer, and Trump because he's a childish brat. And both because they are unrepentant liars. If we can't do better than those two, we're doomed.
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Post by billb on Oct 27, 2022 10:50:32 GMT -8
OK, Trump are Biden. I need to get out a spread sheet and take a deep dive into the issues.
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Post by nictoe on Nov 2, 2022 6:59:20 GMT -8
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Post by Credo on Nov 2, 2022 9:46:52 GMT -8
There's no way in hell the Demoncrats can trot Sleep Joe out there again.
Gavin Newsom will be their nominee--God help us.
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Post by nictoe on Nov 4, 2022 8:38:31 GMT -8
Scoop: Trump team eyes Nov. 14 announcement
Jonathan Swan
Former President Trump's inner circle is discussing announcing the launch of a 2024 presidential campaign on Nov. 14 — with the official announcement possibly followed by a multi-day series of political events, according to three sources familiar with the sensitive discussions.
Why it matters: Trump and his top advisers have been signaling for weeks that a 2024 announcement is imminent. But those discussions have reached the point that allies are blocking off days in their calendars for the week after the midterms — and preparing to travel.
What we're hearing: With polls pointing toward a good night for Republicans on Tuesday, Trump plans to surf the GOP's expected post-midterm euphoria to build momentum for his own effort to retake the White House.
Look for Trump to take credit for Republican victories across the board —including those he propelled with his endorsements, and even those he had nothing to do with.
Between the lines: Trump has long planned to announce shortly after midterms — and even toyed with announcing before Nov. 8 — in an effort to get ahead of potential rivals for the GOP's 2024 nomination, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
In recent weeks, Trump has been inching closer and closer to saying he is running, relishing the applause as he hints to his rally crowds that he's doing it. At his Thursday rally in Sioux City, Iowa, Trump said: "In order to make our country successful and safe and glorious, I will very, very, very probably do it again ... Get ready that’s all I’m telling you — very soon. Get ready." A Trump spokesman declined to comment. The discussions are still fluid and could change depending on Tuesday's results, especially if the Senate still hangs in the balance and the Georgia race between Herschel Walker and Raphael Warnock goes to a run-off.
Reality check: It's Trump. So anything could happen — or not. He's conflicted on the timing and nothing is ever certain. But people who have been close to him for many years are lacing up for the next race
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Post by billb on Nov 4, 2022 21:18:39 GMT -8
Just remember Nictoe, you can't question the elections. OK, we can question them, but it depends on who wins....
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Post by SK80 on Feb 22, 2023 19:43:57 GMT -8
Who you got? Trump or Biden...?
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Post by nictoe on Apr 23, 2023 10:42:22 GMT -8
How do Americans feel about a Trump-Biden rematch? 'Exhaustion' tops the list.
Andrew Romano 4/21/2023
With President Biden reportedly set to announce his reelection campaign early next week, more Americans say they feel “exhaustion” over the prospect of a 2024 rematch between Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, than any other emotion, according to a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll.
The survey of 1,530 U.S. adults, which was conducted from April 14 to 17, found that 38% chose exhaustion after being shown a list of eight feelings and asked to select all that “come to mind” when considering another Biden vs. Trump campaign.
Among registered voters, the number is even higher: 44%.
No other sentiment — not fear (29%), sadness (23%), hope (23%), anger (23%), excitement (16%), pride (8%) or gratitude (7%) — cracks the 30% mark among all Americans.
Fatigue is an understandable response to what could be the first general election for president since 1892 to feature the incumbent and his defeated predecessor competing as the major-party nominees — and the only White House race in U.S. history in which one candidate is facing indictment and possible criminal prosecution for conspiring to overturn his prior loss.
Yet voters are not quite as pessimistic about a Biden-Trump sequel as they were a few months ago. In December, a nearly a third of them (32%) told Yahoo News and YouGov that “if Joe Biden and Donald Trump run against each other for president again in 2024,” the result would be either “the worst thing that could happen” (15%) or “mostly bad” (17%); only 23% said it would be “mostly good” (11%) or “the best thing that could happen” (12%).
Now that 9-point gap has shrunk to just 3 points, with 29% of voters expressing a negative view and 26% of voters expressing a positive view. About 3 in 10 continue to say it's “a mix of good and bad.” Positive views have increased since December among both Republicans (33%, up from 30%) and Democrats (24%, up from 17%).
Where the parties differ is that Republicans are more likely to see a rematch positively than negatively — while Democrats, despite some softening, are still more likely to see a rematch negatively than positively. Exhaustion, for instance, is more prevalent among Democrats (44%) than Republicans (26%) by a margin of 18 percentage points, and fear (+12 for Democrats), sadness (+15) and anger (+9) are more common on the left as well.
In contrast, Republicans express hope (+20), excitement (+10) and pride (+5) at greater rates than Democrats.
Much of the liberal aversion to another Biden-Trump contest likely reflects the former president’s staggering unpopularity among Democrats; a full 68% of them say they have a “very unfavorable” opinion of him.
Yet Democrats’ overall negativity also underscores their unease about Biden. More now say they would prefer to nominate the president (43%) over “someone else” (39%) — a reversal from the latter part of last year, when a plurality of Democrats repeatedly said they would prefer someone else. But Biden’s numbers among Democrats are a lot closer than Trump’s among Republicans, with whom Trump leads “someone else” by a 49% to 39% margin.
For Democrats, the problem is not Biden’s performance in office; they overwhelmingly approve (80%) rather than disapprove (16%) of how he is handling the job. Instead, anxiety about Biden’s status as the oldest president in U.S. history — he is 80 now and would be 86 at the end of his second term — seems to be sapping confidence in his candidacy.
Asked in June 2020 how concerned they were “about Joe Biden’s health and mental acuity,” just 28% of Democrats said they were either somewhat (10%) or very concerned (18%); the other 72% said they were either slightly (28%) or not at all concerned (44%).
More than two and a half years later, however, the combined number of somewhat or very concerned Democrats has risen 12 points to about 40%, while the combined number who are slightly or not at all concerned has fallen by the same amount, to about 60%, according to a Yahoo News/YouGov poll from late February.
Overall, nearly 7 in 10 voters (68%) said in February that Biden would be “too old for another term” — and more Democrats agreed (48%) than disagreed (34%).
The good news for the president is that even though his job approval rating remains below 50% among all Americans, it is now at its highest level (44%) since September 2021 (up from about 40% for much of 2022). His approval rating on the economy (at 40%) is now 4 points higher than it was in early February, while his approval rating on inflation (36%) has increased by 5 points over the same period. And he performs 3 or 4 points better on each of those measures among registered voters.
Heading into 2024, Biden’s approval numbers are still lower than the White House would like them to be. Yet current trend lines seem to be favoring the president over his recently indicted predecessor. In a general election matchup, Biden now enjoys a 4-point lead over Trump (46% to 42%) among registered voters. One month ago, Biden led Trump by just 2 points.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 23, 2023 10:59:40 GMT -8
If one of the choices had been either "disgusted" or "nauseous", it might have won. What does it say about the American political landscape that these two old mummified turds are still at the top of the charts? Why can't we put them past us?
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Post by nictoe on Apr 23, 2023 12:06:52 GMT -8
Americans are addicted to Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 23, 2023 12:41:57 GMT -8
Then we deserve whatever crap we get.
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Post by billb on Apr 23, 2023 22:37:12 GMT -8
If one of the choices had been either "disgusted" or "nauseous", it might have won. I know you are going to disagree, but Trump's landslide in 2016 overwhelmed their cheating. In 2020, they were ready.
All that matters now is "who counts the votes."
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