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Post by billb on Apr 25, 2023 20:52:08 GMT -8
San Francisco. I think they are more left than most leftist cities. It is tough competition though: Chicago, Washington DC... NYC's new mayor is a little better than the last, but wow, they are all out there.
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Post by billb on Apr 25, 2023 20:53:09 GMT -8
What history are you most interested in MD? US, Classical, Ancient, Egyptian, Greek, or just general? American history, with an emphasis on the Civil War, and a special interest in the Confederacy. That's why it was always so amusing when Vilepagan would challenge me on what I knew about people like Robert E. Lee and pretend that he knew more. It was like debating a frog that was good at googling. Ah, my weak spot. LOL |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 25, 2023 21:31:00 GMT -8
If their citizens are good with pissing their dough away, who are we to slow them down? I don't believe for a minute that it would just be San Francisco residents' money that is pissed away on reparations. The left will find a way to legislate that it be state money that comes from you and me. As long as we are all one nation, I think we have an obligation to prevent kids from being mutilated, regardless of what state or city they live in. Only to a point. Again, a republic is a nation, and a nation should have some framework for decency and the protection of those that need it...like underage children. I would find it hard to ive in a city knowing that a bordering city allows or encourages child mutilation. |
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Post by thefrog on Apr 26, 2023 5:08:15 GMT -8
What history are you most interested in MD? US, Classical, Ancient, Egyptian, Greek, or just general? American history, with an emphasis on the Civil War, and a special interest in the Confederacy. That's why it was always so amusing when Vilepagan would challenge me on what I knew about people like Robert E. Lee and pretend that he knew more. It was like debating a frog that was good at googling. This is offensive |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 26, 2023 6:12:58 GMT -8
American history, with an emphasis on the Civil War, and a special interest in the Confederacy. That's why it was always so amusing when Vilepagan would challenge me on what I knew about people like Robert E. Lee and pretend that he knew more. It was like debating a frog that was good at googling. This is offensive Sorry dude. I didn't think. I was referring to the ugly, pimply beast. |
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Post by thefrog on Apr 26, 2023 18:32:57 GMT -8
Sorry dude. I didn't think. I was referring to the ugly, pimply beast. Ribbit |
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Post by Bick on Apr 27, 2023 6:46:42 GMT -8
I think most here believe that gender crap is repugnant, but I'm wondering is if the framers intent was to allow the states to exist as they see fit.
My facts may be off here, but wasn't polygamy acceptable in Utah until those citizens decided it wasn't? Granted, some here might find it a little more palatable to have different choices at night than the gender stuff, but isn't it really a state matter?
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Post by SK80 on Apr 27, 2023 7:20:33 GMT -8
US HISTORY? @ CHAPEL HILL "WE don't need no stinkin' US HISTORY!"
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Post by Bick on Apr 27, 2023 8:47:01 GMT -8
Isn't this really the core of our national issues? Those who want to live differently than the freedom the framers intended? Seems half the country wants to be taken care of by the ruling class, and the other is willing to live with the warts the Congress along with such freedoms.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 27, 2023 8:47:26 GMT -8
I think most here believe that gender crap is repugnant, but I'm wondering is if the framers intent was to allow the states to exist as they see fit.My facts may be off here, but wasn't polygamy acceptable in Utah until those citizens decided it wasn't? Granted, some here might find it a little more palatable to have different choices at night than the gender stuff, but isn't it really a state matter? Yes, it was the intent of the founders to allow states the independence to legislate their own values and behavior, but only to a point. I could argue either side of Utah allowing polygamy, as long as it was consensual and did not involve minors. But if Mississippi passed a law legalizing slavery, or lynching, I could take only one side of that. The same is true of states that legalize the sexual mutilation of confused children. Sooner or later, decency and common sense have to be allowed to trump states' rights. |
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Post by billb on Apr 27, 2023 16:07:32 GMT -8
Give it a little time MD. The madness can't go on forever. Pretty soon kids will be coming home to their parents (from Minnesota) crying about a stupid decision they made. I don't see how a state can be a sanctuary for minors who want to do that.
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Post by billb on Apr 27, 2023 16:08:41 GMT -8
US HISTORY? @ CHAPEL HILL "WE don't need no stinkin' US HISTORY!"
The good news is that Trump just appointed a bunch of judges that will be there for a long time. Those judges will see it differently than the professors. |
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Post by Bick on Apr 27, 2023 21:22:07 GMT -8
I think most here believe that gender crap is repugnant, but I'm wondering is if the framers intent was to allow the states to exist as they see fit.My facts may be off here, but wasn't polygamy acceptable in Utah until those citizens decided it wasn't? Granted, some here might find it a little more palatable to have different choices at night than the gender stuff, but isn't it really a state matter? Yes, it was the intent of the founders to allow states the independence to legislate their own values and behavior, but only to a point. I could argue either side of Utah allowing polygamy, as long as it was consensual and did not involve minors. But if Mississippi passed a law legalizing slavery, or lynching, I could take only one side of that. The same is true of states that legalize the sexual mutilation of confused children. Sooner or later, decency and common sense have to be allowed to trump states' rights. Where does the Constitution draw the line in terms of morality as it relates to children, incest and all other issues most here would agree are unacceptable? |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 27, 2023 21:36:39 GMT -8
The founding fathers and framers of the Constitution were deeply Christian men who felt there was no need to include those things that are second nature to people of faith. Instead, the Constitution was intended to define and limit the relatively few things the federal government can do. It is today's left that believes the government also has the power to do anything that is not included in the Constitution as well, and is the primary reason it has grown into the intrusive monster it has become.
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Post by Bick on Apr 28, 2023 6:51:20 GMT -8
This piece speaks into your point of the founders' morality pretty well. www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/civic-virtues-as-moral-facts-recovering-the-other-half-of-our-founding/The trouble is, you could reasonably argue their acceptance of slavery and selective use of scripture to support it was less than moral. As a country, we've openly accepted the mistreatment of Native Americans, and immigrant Asians without giving it a second thought because it either benefited us or calmed our collective fears. How can we now legitimately claim the moral high ground over states expanding their acceptance of sexuality we believe crosses yet another line? |
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