RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on May 23, 2019 17:26:05 GMT -8
Most of us on this forum are not too far apart on our political views, we may differ in a few areas but are basically conservative/libertarian in nature. However, if one were to speak with those on TOB, they would label us as far right, and a few of us would be condemned as extremest. I used to have a disagreement with Fordama (who was fond of labeling himself both Republican and a centrist) that those on the left skew the political spectrum. My star witness was the media, who labels a majority of United States citizens as being "center-right". That is an oxymoron, for whatever a majority of the people are is indeed the center. By shifting the center of the political spectrum to the left, it places liberal positions as centrist and makes even the most mild conservative views "far right".
I will admit that over time, that strategy has worn me down. At times, I have wondered if I really was just a right wing nut, out of touch with a majority of the populace. Then yesterday, I had a conversation with a nice woman who was proudly right leaning. She told me how over 40 people associated with the Clinton's had been murdered over the years, all of them treated as accidents or unsolved. She spoke of how the fire that consumed the city of Paradise was started intentionally by supporters of the bullet train in order to get land that they couldn't take legally. She giggled when she explained how they figured out that Michele Obama is transgender and had surgery to hide the fact that Barack is gay. She was not a stupid woman, she was just very confident that those on the left were committing atrocious crimes or cover-ups in order to further their political agenda. Listening to her was like going to a chiropractor; it was an adjustment that made know I was properly aligned.
There are indeed folks who are far right, I just don't believe any of them post on this forum.
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Post by SK80 on May 23, 2019 19:26:02 GMT -8
I think you are talking "extremists". Any RATIONAL person in my opinion can't be an extremist. I grew up on one side of the spectrum, after high school educated, employed and lived in the other side.... I can take nothing that far..., it is senseless to do so. I always fall back on the old adage to be in someone else shoes. I think if more people gave that consideration we would have a less toxic environment.
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Post by Bick on May 23, 2019 22:16:46 GMT -8
I actually have a couple hispanic cousins that call themselves "patriots" that constantly bent my ear that Obama was a terrorist that infiltrated the country somehow. Me telling them that he and I were born in the same hospital, and had that same funky green birth certificate that was damn near impossible to obtain a copy of, didn't slow them down. They KNEW.
Assuming the gal RSM described, along w/ my patriot cousins, are considered "far-right", everyone here is to the left of that. Is the KKK really considered far-right? If so, I guess they'd be the extreme...right?
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Post by MDDad on May 24, 2019 7:57:46 GMT -8
Terms like "far right" are much too general to have any real meaning. It's entirely possible, and probably pretty common, for many people to be "far right" on some issues and moderate or even slightly left of center on others.
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Post by Bick on May 24, 2019 9:34:00 GMT -8
You're correct. Assuming labeling it is important to begin with, it makes more sense to label the "position", and not the person. Likely the key difference between left and right. Seems the left is hellbent to label the individual as a tactic to discredit the argument. Over here, we are hard on the issue(s), but easy on the person.
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Post by SK80 on May 24, 2019 9:36:18 GMT -8
"Character Assassination" is the m/o of the far left.
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Post by MDDad on May 24, 2019 10:23:29 GMT -8
Over here, we are hard on the issue(s), but easy on the person. Well, except for AOC. I believe next Wednesday there will a remake of All In The Family and The Jeffersons on network TV with Marisa Tomei as Edith Bunker. It's too bad they didn't cast AOC instead, because she is the ultimate dingbat. |
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Post by davidsf on May 24, 2019 10:49:35 GMT -8
In my never-to-be-considered “humble” opinion, extremists are the KKK, other White Supremacists, ANTIfa, BLM, Nancy Pelosi and all the Trump-hating snowflakes (here making a distinction between Trump-haters and Trump-hating snowflakes, that I do not usually make, just to clarify my meaning).
I am not sure of the differentiations between “right” and “far right” but I am loathe to accept the branding from the uneducated over on TOB.
however, I do consider myself “far” right.
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Post by Bick on May 24, 2019 10:53:06 GMT -8
In my never-to-be-considered “humble” opinion, extremists are the KKK, other White Supremacists, ANTIfa, BLM, Nancy Pelosi and all the Trump-hating snowflakes (here making a distinction between Trump-haters and Trump-hating snowflakes, that I do not usually make, just to clarify my meaning). I am not sure of the differentiations between “right” and “far right” but I am loathe to accept the branding from the uneducated over on TOB. however, I do consider myself “far” right. Now I'm curious...just what ARE the far-right positions? |
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Post by Credo on May 24, 2019 21:38:52 GMT -8
Well at least the New Right is winning election after election.
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Post by davidsf on May 25, 2019 6:49:01 GMT -8
 In my never-to-be-considered “humble” opinion, extremists are the KKK, other White Supremacists, ANTIfa, BLM, Nancy Pelosi and all the Trump-hating snowflakes (here making a distinction between Trump-haters and Trump-hating snowflakes, that I do not usually make, just to clarify my meaning). I am not sure of the differentiations between “right” and “far right” but I am loathe to accept the branding from the uneducated over on TOB. however, I do consider myself “far” right. Now I'm curious...just what ARE the far-right positions? For me, -no elective abortions and, in the case of the actual life of the mother (not “quality of life crap”), a representation of the child’s life has to be involved. -balanced budget to include undocumented expenses. -flat tax -no anchor babies, illegal aliens caught and repatriated to Mexico. -strict enforcement of the 6th amendment (particularly for capital crimes) -reinstatement of the death penalty, nationwide -capture and prosecution of white supremacists, Antifa, most of Obama’s administration and cronies, and all MS-13 gang members. -stop all foreign aid to non allies including any nation who attacks Israel or any other Ally. -metered and limited immigration. just to name a few. |
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Post by RSM789 on May 26, 2019 10:57:15 GMT -8
Dave, I would suggest that those positions are just conservative or right, not far right. Talking with customers over the years that are just normal folks, not overly concerned with politics, a huge percentage of them would agree with all of those positions. In fact, the only people I know who wouldn't agree with them are liberals.
I believe it is the media & the left who relentlessly try to portray their positions as centrist and yours (those) as therefore far right.
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Post by Bick on May 26, 2019 11:38:27 GMT -8
For me, -no elective abortions and, in the case of the actual life of the mother (not “quality of life crap”), a representation of the child’s life has to be involved. -balanced budget to include undocumented expenses. -flat tax -no anchor babies, illegal aliens caught and repatriated to Mexico. -strict enforcement of the 6th amendment (particularly for capital crimes) -reinstatement of the death penalty, nationwide -capture and prosecution of white supremacists, Antifa, most of Obama’s administration and cronies, and all MS-13 gang members. -stop all foreign aid to non allies including any nation who attacks Israel or any other Ally. -metered and limited immigration. just to name a few. Interesting. My thoughts on each of those points: 1. Agree that no elective abortions would be a far right position 2. Balanced budget seems centrist3 & 8. Anchor babies, illegal immigration, limited immigration seems centrist4. Speedy trial seems centrist5. Nationwide Death penalty advocacy seems left in that it's a states' rights issue, and not federal. 6. Capture / prosecution of identified groups seems left. Should it matter what group someone belongs to when they commit a crime? Seems the importance of placing people in a bucket is a calling card of the left. 7. Foreign aid to non-allies seems centrist. |
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