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Post by Credo on Jul 10, 2020 15:36:39 GMT -8
Trump just commuted Roger Stone's sentence. Good. This was just another sketchy process crime prosecution to prop up the phony Russia Collusion narrative. The "case" never should have gone to court in the first place.
The Left is going to go officially nuts over this commutation. Good again.
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 11, 2020 2:14:49 GMT -8
Trump just commuted Roger Stone's sentence. Good. This was just another sketchy process crime prosecution to prop up the phony Russia Collusion narrative. The "case" never should have gone to court in the first place. The Left is going to go officially nuts over this commutation. Good again. Trump just demonstrated that his corruption knows no limit. According to you lying to Congress and witness tampering are now "process crimes'. The "case" certainly should have been brought as evidenced by the verdict...it was decided by a jury of Mr. Stone's peers and they believed he committed the crimes. Your partisanship is disgusting. |
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Post by Credo on Jul 12, 2020 22:19:13 GMT -8
Roger Stone was convicted for lying in a case about a crime that never happened during an investigation that never should have happened. And the jury foreperson lied about her anti-Trump social media postings, which should have been an automatic mistrial upon appeal. Trump corrected an injustice that was done to Roger Stone.
And Robert Mueller is a dirty cop who earlier in his "noble" career falsely accused a innocent man of being behind the Anthrax letter attacks in 2001 and later helped perpetuate the phony WMD narrative that justified the invasion of Iraq.
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 13, 2020 1:00:05 GMT -8
Roger Stone was convicted for lying in a case about a crime that never happened during an investigation that never should have happened. You're absolutely right...Roger Stone committed seven felonies and was convicted. His conviction stands. Your candidate surrounds himself with felons. My candidate does not. Congratulations, and carry on. |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 13, 2020 6:25:38 GMT -8
Your candidate surrounds himself with felons. My candidate does not. Felons surround Donald Trump in much the same way that fortuitous dead bodies used to pile up around the Clintons. I assume those are the "my candidates" you are referring to. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 13, 2020 8:58:14 GMT -8
Roger Stone was convicted for lying in a case about a crime that never happened during an investigation that never should have happened. And the jury foreperson lied about her anti-Trump social media postings, which should have been an automatic mistrial upon appeal. Trump corrected an injustice that was done to Roger Stone. And Robert Mueller is a dirty cop who earlier in his "noble" career falsely accused a innocent man of being behind the Anthrax letter attacks in 2001 and later helped perpetuate the phony WMD narrative that justified the invasion of Iraq. Fruit of the poisonous tree |
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Post by Credo on Jul 13, 2020 11:13:34 GMT -8
Roger Stone was convicted for lying in a case about a crime that never happened during an investigation that never should have happened. You're absolutely right...Roger Stone committed seven felonies and was convicted. His conviction stands. Without using Google or Wikipedia, can you explain in one paragraph exactly what Roger Stone lied about and why that is relevant to the 2016 election? If you can't do this in less than five minutes on your own knowledge alone, then you have no idea what you're talking about and are just blowing smoke. So you have no problem that Tomeka Hart, the jury foreperson in Roger Stone's trial, was clearly biased against both Trump and Stone before appearing for jury duty? Would you think it was fair if a jury member in your own trial had openly made social media posts hostile to you? Or is okay to throw out any known principle of justice because ORANGE MAN BAD? |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 13, 2020 11:23:45 GMT -8
You're absolutely right...Roger Stone committed seven felonies and was convicted. His conviction stands. Without using Google or Wikipedia, can you explain in one paragraph exactly what Roger Stone lied about and why that is relevant to the 2016 election? If you can't do this in less than five minutes on your own knowledge alone, then you have no idea what you're talking about and are just blowing smoke. Credo, please. Not allowing VP to use Google or Wikipedia for his responses is effectively banning him. |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 13, 2020 17:41:37 GMT -8
Your candidate surrounds himself with felons. My candidate does not. Felons surround Donald Trump in much the same way that fortuitous dead bodies used to pile up around the Clintons. I assume those are the "my candidates" you are referring to. Interestingly, vile boy is the very first to claim (I assume) Biden as “his” candidate. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 13, 2020 18:31:04 GMT -8
Your candidate surrounds himself with felons. My candidate does not. Felons surround Donald Trump in much the same way that fortuitous dead bodies used to pile up around the Clintons. I assume those are the "my candidates" you are referring to. Umm...no. Who the hell is talking about the Clintons...and why? Felons surround trump...they don't surround Biden. That should be simple enough for even you to understand. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 13, 2020 18:32:17 GMT -8
Felons surround Donald Trump in much the same way that fortuitous dead bodies used to pile up around the Clintons. I assume those are the "my candidates" you are referring to. Interestingly, vile boy is the very first to claim (I assume) Biden as “his” candidate. I'm not sure why you find that interesting, but I see you still can't act like an adult. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 13, 2020 18:45:42 GMT -8
You're absolutely right...Roger Stone committed seven felonies and was convicted. His conviction stands. Without using Google or Wikipedia, can you explain in one paragraph exactly what Roger Stone lied about and why that is relevant to the 2016 election? He lied about his contacts with Wikileaks, and related communications with the trump campaign. He was convicted of seven felonies including lying to Congress and witness tampering...you should read the texts he sent to a guy named Credico that got him the conviction on witness tampering, He was a prosecution witness, and you'd be very proud of the guy who you're defending if you read the texts...I'd be happy to provide them but you know.... Wikipedia |
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 13, 2020 20:56:03 GMT -8
If a dirty cop plants a gun that was used in a crime on you and then you throw that gun into the river, technically, you are guilty of obstruction of justice. That was the situation Stone found himself in. He was dealing with dirty cops in a political hatchet job and he committed process crimes in dealing with it.
For clarity, Stones sentence was commuted, he was not pardoned. The subtle difference in that is an acknowledgement that Stone did what he was accused of, but that it would not serve justice for him to be in jail for a decade.
I'd be happy to support having Stone serve his sentence if all of the people involved in creating the phony dossier and then spying on Trumps campaign also went to prison.
Sorry VP, you don't get to play whack-a-mole on an opponent and then cry foul when it is done to you.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 13, 2020 23:06:38 GMT -8
I'd be happy to support having Stone serve his sentence if all of the people involved in creating the phony dossier and then spying on Trumps campaign also went to prison.Sorry VP, you don't get to play whack-a-mole on an opponent and then cry foul when it is done to you. This is one of the biggest problems with our system in this polarized world. Unequal treatment under the law. Why is it like that? Why can Democrats lie under oath, get immunity, destroy evidence, etc., and see no prosecution, while Republicans have the book thrown at them for the crime of being too close to Trump, or the alleged crime of lying when the FBI interviewers didn't even think a lie occurred? The justice department needs to address the fact that all these cases take place in such heavily biased areas, such as Washington, D.C, where Democrats outnumber Republicans 76.91% to 5.79%. The result of that is that we never see a Democrat official/politician convicted of (or even indicted for) a crime, nor a Republican ever acquitted of one. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 14, 2020 2:24:12 GMT -8
If a dirty cop plants a gun that was used in a crime on you and then you throw that gun into the river, technically, you are guilty of obstruction of justice. That was the situation Stone found himself in. He was dealing with dirty cops in a political hatchet job and he committed process crimes in dealing with it. For clarity, Stones sentence was commuted, he was not pardoned. The subtle difference in that is an acknowledgement that Stone did what he was accused of, but that it would not serve justice for him to be in jail for a decade. I'd be happy to support having Stone serve his sentence if all of the people involved in creating the phony dossier and then spying on Trumps campaign also went to prison. Sorry VP, you don't get to play whack-a-mole on an opponent and then cry foul when it is done to you. Your analogy of the planted gun is just stupid...no evidence was planted on Stone. No one spied on trump's campaign. If you have an argument based an anything other than wishful thinking let me know. |
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