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Post by kupprunneth on Jan 25, 2020 10:21:21 GMT -8
Kupprunneth, Fair enough. But seriously, isn't there a kid named Clarkson who is supposed to be the next big thing at Bosco? MDDad, our people here at Servite seem to think the current frosh QB at Mater Dei is very talented. As you say, the top kids want to play as sophomores. With Bryce departed, wouldn't the time be ripe for a freshman to step up and play the next three years? Clarkson's name is popular because of Pops. I just don't see it with him. He does have offers from Ole Miss and FAU (both from Kiffin) but I think that has more to do with Kiff's relationship with Pops. He's small but not a running type. |
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Post by Credo on Jan 25, 2020 10:23:20 GMT -8
Was he the primary starter on the frosh team last season?
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Post by kupprunneth on Jan 25, 2020 15:56:08 GMT -8
he was. looked solid.
I could see a situation where Bosco "takes it easy" and "lays low" this upcoming season coming off a state championship, and riding with him and only going after "6-8" transfers instead of 15+.
But then again, Negro and crew are all about winning and may go "bigger" this season to keep the momentum.
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Post by Credo on Jan 25, 2020 19:57:19 GMT -8
With all the defensive talent and the stable of WR's and RB's at each school, a merely decent QB will likely be sufficient to get each team back to the CIF title game. There may not be as many blowouts but that's probably a good thing for everyone concerned.
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Post by Bick on Jan 29, 2020 20:55:05 GMT -8
Looks like the Griffins are getting its usual allotment of xfers again this year.
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Makai Lemon Fr DB/WR - La Mirada
Brian Jurado So DB/WR - Mayfair
Alec Wills So LB - JSerra
Lane Broderick So DB - MD
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Darius Dooley So LB - Western
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Post by MDDad on Jan 29, 2020 22:30:12 GMT -8
I think you'll be pretty pleased with Broderick. The kid can play.
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Post by Credo on Jan 29, 2020 22:53:50 GMT -8
they tried it with Malachi Nelson but changed his mind because he wasnt sure about playing time. It was a great decision by him since he's getting big offers, but in the bigger picture, he made a mistake. He should have went to Bosco like he planned to, sit behind DJ, and start his last 3 years. Instead, he'll take unnecessary punishment at Los Al if he chooses to stay. A mistake because he will take unnecessary punishment like... all the other Los Al QBs the past 4 years? Maybe he was looking for a "normal" high school experience with girls. Or maybe he thought it would be more fun playing football with his friends instead of competing for a mythical national championship? Or maybe the thought of being indoctrinated into catholicism for 4 years, when he's not a catholic, felt a little hypocritical on second thought.Who knows, it might be even a little challenging throwing to guys who aren't head and shoulders better than the DB's trying to guard them... Kinda like it will be at the next level. This is a little late on the reply. Bick, I largely agree with your objections but would take exception with the one I bolded. There really isn't any sort of "indoctrination" into Catholicism at Catholic high schools--there's just too much religious diversity these days. All students will certainly learn the tenets of the Catholic faith (as they would learn the principles of Lutheranism at OLU or Crean) but their own religious backgrounds are respected. I would also strongly argue that any Protestant Christian (or even a Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or non-believer) would find the spiritual atmosphere at a Catholic school--where God, Christ, and the Bible are respected and upheld--superior to that found at a public school (of which I myself am a product). That being said, I'm glad Malachi chose to go to Los Al. The Catholic schools have enough of a stronghold on talent, and could use a challenge from the public schools. |
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Post by Bick on Jan 30, 2020 6:10:41 GMT -8
I think you'll be pretty pleased with Broderick. The kid can play. Pure testament to how deep you guys are. By all accounts, he's a neat kid as well. Kudos to you. |
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Post by Bick on Jan 30, 2020 6:24:53 GMT -8
Credo, I'm a product of catholic school as well. While I'm in agreement the spiritual plane is higher in a parochial school, I disagree with your assessment of the absence of indoctrination there. That doesn't mean that what's being taught is a bad thing. Rather, I think it's a very good thing...for some.
I just wonder how many go to the parochial schools that have no interest in the spiritual aspect of the campus or curriculum, but rather use the school for their athletic desires. We could start another thread about this if you'd like so as not to further hijack it.
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Post by Credo on Jan 30, 2020 8:35:35 GMT -8
Credo, I'm a product of catholic school as well. While I'm in agreement the spiritual plane is higher in a parochial school, I disagree with your assessment of the absence of indoctrination there. That doesn't mean that what's being taught is a bad thing. Rather, I think it's a very good thing...for some. I just wonder how many go to the parochial schools that have no interest in the spiritual aspect of the campus or curriculum, but rather use the school for their athletic desires. We could start another thread about this if you'd like so as not to further hijack it. No doubt there's plenty who attend Catholic high schools primarily to further their athletic goals--at least among the highly elite athletes. Others who are merely very good athletes--but have no higher aspirations--are also attracted to the fact that these schools play at the highest level, and that experience is valuable in itself. The success of the athletic programs in the Trinity League is proof of all that. And then add in the values taught and the disciplinary environment as a further benefit from the parents' perspective. I'm a veteran religion teacher myself and my only point is that the non-Catholic kid in 2020 will not have his faith denigrated at a Catholic high school and that the Protestant Christian will find an atmosphere and curriculum that will only strengthen his own belief in Christ and the Scriptures. Public schools (of which I was a 12-year product) have their own kind of indoctrination--the spirit of which we spend a lot of time on the General Discussion side criticizing and working against. I remind my students here at Servite that--paradoxically-- we actually have more freedom in a private religious school to discuss things that we couldn't at the local public schools--and that they should be grateful for that, even when they might disagree with Catholic teaching on certain issues. |
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Post by SK80 on Jan 30, 2020 10:08:39 GMT -8
--superior to that found at a public school I am going to conjure you are referencing "spirituality" here...., do not however broad brush all publics as simply inferior. The spirituality discovered, experienced, taught at a certain school (public) I was a product of is on par to any other, the powers of the sea (holy water) and the Gods and Prophets that watched over (us) in Poseidon and Neptune are not any lesser....  But seriously Credo, I think you may find some of this of interest..., Through the beach (church) the oceans (soul) one finds, confronts, discovers God. More days than not while in high school, I was at church. Blessed. This article is much deeper when you have the time... I, the surfer, am—myself. The body with which I surf in the sea symbolizes the soul, with which I "surf" in God. The sea is God. The beach is the approach to God. Surfing is the experience of God, or the spiritual life.Surfing and Spirituality
www.peterkreeft.com/topics/surfing.htm  Like those "Boys" from the "Beach" in that famous choir the "Beach Boys" sang in perfect harmony, "Catch a wave and you will be sitting on top of the world". I can attest, as close as you will experience..., "Walking on Water". |
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Post by frankieboy1 on Jan 31, 2020 7:12:59 GMT -8
Credo, I'm a product of catholic school as well. While I'm in agreement the spiritual plane is higher in a parochial school, I disagree with your assessment of the absence of indoctrination there. That doesn't mean that what's being taught is a bad thing. Rather, I think it's a very good thing...for some. I just wonder how many go to the parochial schools that have no interest in the spiritual aspect of the campus or curriculum, but rather use the school for their athletic desires. We could start another thread about this if you'd like so as not to further hijack it. No doubt there's plenty who attend Catholic high schools primarily to further their athletic goals--at least among the highly elite athletes. Others who are merely very good athletes--but have no higher aspirations--are also attracted to the fact that these schools play at the highest level, and that experience is valuable in itself. The success of the athletic programs in the Trinity League is proof of all that. And then add in the values taught and the disciplinary environment as a further benefit from the parents' perspective. I'm a veteran religion teacher myself and my only point is that the non-Catholic kid in 2020 will not have his faith denigrated at a Catholic high school and that the Protestant Christian will find an atmosphere and curriculum that will only strengthen his own belief in Christ and the Scriptures. Public schools (of which I was a 12-year product) have their own kind of indoctrination--the spirit of which we spend a lot of time on the General Discussion side criticizing and working against. I remind my students here at Servite that--paradoxically-- we actually have more freedom in a private religious school to discuss things that we couldn't at the local public schools--and that they should be grateful for that, even when they might disagree with Catholic teaching on certain issues. Daughter played (the end of the bench) at a TL program. Demanding nature toughened her up and helped prepare her for college. As for the spiritual side-she's a good Catholic kid who has gotten more involved in the Church in college (going to the Newman Center, Catholic bible study) at the University of Utah-and even taking her Mormon roommates with her to Mass! It prepared her for the full-blown dose of the "other side" she gets-and with the kind of roommates and friends she has gets reinforcement when she sees what's going on. TL school she went to reinforced our values (both Catholic and political). Public institutions teach values also-not necessarily mine. HS worth every penny-biggest job you as a parent have in HS is "don't f--- up your kid"! |
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Post by MDDad on Jan 31, 2020 11:39:34 GMT -8
I agree, Frankie.
Some people voice concern for non-Catholic kids facing the threat of being brainwashed into Catholicism by attending a Catholic high school and taking its religion classes. I can only speak for Mater Dei, but I assume the classes are similar in breadth at other Catholic high schools as well. While the sacraments, the history of the church and scripture are indeed covered, those "religion" classes also go deeply into subjects like the awareness and prevention of substance abuse, the choices and decisions to be made in relationships and sexuality, and preventing abuse in those relationships, ethics, Christian lifestyles, comparative religions, peace and justice, war, euthanasia, capital punishment, racism, poverty, and an introduction to philosophy. If learning about those subjects is "indoctrination", then everyone might benefit from taking them.
Compare that to the blatant far-left philosophies and lifestyles preached by our public schools. Not only is the approach much more aggressive, but the repercussions for opposing views is much more harsh. And that public school brainwashing goes on for 17 years, from kindergarten through college, while Catholic high school religion classes are only for four.
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Post by Bick on Feb 1, 2020 7:35:02 GMT -8
As those guys xfer in to MD and Bosco, others there who play the same positions and were waiting behind last year's starters will continue to xfer out. Then those kids displace others at the next school, and so on and so forth.
I can see how that could change the culture at a number of schools as the dominoes fall.
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