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Post by Bick on Aug 14, 2019 8:37:10 GMT -8
While this won't likely be very popular for the top 4 teams, I think the rest of the teams would celebrate this.
One thing for certain, it's far better than this Division 1/2 deal where EVERYONE makes the playoffs in those 2 divisions, regardless of record. I really wonder if anyone realized the incentive that was created by this...losing enough games to stay out of the top 8 has no jeopardy.
One other observation in this article was the increase in CIF school fees being justified by a drop in playoff attendance. Interesting how failure is rewarded in the quasi-public sector.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 14, 2019 10:47:32 GMT -8
This is another example of where political correctness is taking us, so why not just go all the way? Make 200 playoff divisions of two teams each. That way every team plays in a championship game and wins either a ring or a runner-up trophy.
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Post by Bick on Aug 14, 2019 11:23:25 GMT -8
I think it's more about the separation the top 3 teams have had the past 5 years than everyone gets a trophy.
As I posed on the other board, it seems you've outgrown the section, if not the state. I think a national league would be pretty compelling theater.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 14, 2019 11:33:02 GMT -8
Then the rules should be changed to bring those three programs back to the pack. There are about 397 other schools in the Southern Section who have the power and the votes to do just that.
Yes, a national league would be compelling for those sitting at home and watching on TV. For a high school program, the financial burden of five cross-country trips, both for the school and the parents, and the academic costs of missing that much class time, make such an option out of the question.
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Post by Luca on Aug 15, 2019 7:01:01 GMT -8
Or, conversely, those 3 programs could simply abide by the traditional principles that previously governed HSFB. It’s up to 397 other schools to reign in 3 renegade programs rather than those programs to discipline themselves? As in "Somebody stop me before I kill again?”
We have seen this scenario play out in high school basketball already. We know where it is heading. The only remedy I can see - and I am, to put it mildly, skeptical this will happen - is for the programs under discussion to refocus themselves on the actual purpose of high school athletics and competition……………………………………………….Luca
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 15, 2019 12:14:52 GMT -8
Then the rules should be changed to bring those three programs back to the pack. There are about 397 other schools in the Southern Section who have the power and the votes to do just that. Yes, a national league would be compelling for those sitting at home and watching on TV. For a high school program, the financial burden of five cross-country trips, both for the school and the parents, and the academic costs of missing that much class time, make such an option out of the question.I've said it before and I'll say it again. The other 397 schools in the SS (and all the schools in Southern California), have the ability to stop this nonsense, by simply refusing to schedule these teams. If they have to go out of state for all of their non-league games, these schools will be forced to modify their behavior. It's not rocket science. |
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Post by templar83 on Aug 15, 2019 13:49:54 GMT -8
Clearly there is a good deal of emotion pushing any discussion on the current situation involving sports transfers at the high school level. I submit, however, there is significantly more than " 3 renegade programs " on which to focus or even to assign blame. Athletically motivated transfers have been taking place for decades, long before MD, Bosco and CC separated themselves, as Bick observes, from the pack. And yes I know Gary McKnight started all this ( one Senior Sage poster some years back even made reference to him as being the Devil ), but even if that debatable point has traction, how many programs over the past many years have feasted on acquiring players? MV, under Bob Johnson, comes to mind. 17 of JSerra's 22 varsity starters this year are apparently transfers. Narbonne has collected several, and OLU a few years back brought in transfers in large numbers. The list goes on and on and we all know it. The difference at the moment is the success three, really two, schools have enjoyed. But it is highly unlikely either school will continue to dominate in the fashion they have in recent years. The aforementioned JSerra is committed to joining the fight and is already a force to be reckoned with; Servite will continue to "attract" talent and will be a tough opponent for anyone beginning this year. Likewise MV is fast becoming the OC's very own Corona Centennial.
At the end of the day there is no end in sight for the current transfer trend and no school in the Trinity League, at least, is above it all. Lastly, for those that miss the good old days I get it, sort of. But many good old days are gone, and in many instances thank goodness for it. Bemoaning the fact, in my opinion, creates more heat than light, but in this great Country it's still our right to bitch as we see fit.
And now, for those interested, let the season begin....
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