Post by Bick on Aug 25, 2019 12:53:45 GMT -8
With all the hand-wringing about the second coming of Nazism, I wanted to see what it was all about, and how it is tied to the far-right, or if it was tied more along the lines as the name suggests...socialism. The 25 point manifesto, which I've previously never read, is copied below.
While #4 & #8 are clearly racist, and Making Germany Great Again is a key theme, I'm not seeing a whole lot of conservative or right-wing ideology here. Among other points, I think it interesting that John Keynes, the economist Obama patterned his economic policies after, was highly critical of the Treaty of Versailles as being too onerous. I agree with Obama, Hitler, and Keynes on this take, and it is clearly articulated as a root cause of the Nazi movement...by Hitler anyway. My detractors might want to use this as clear-cut evidence I'm a Neo-Nazi.
Some points lean right, some lean left, and others are verbatim left. I don't believe any of these points would be espoused verbatim by any leading republican.
#6 leans right with the exception of the who can work for the government
#10 starts right, but then goes hard left
#7 leans left in the first sentence
#11 leans left pretty hard
#17 The only difference between this being verbatim, is the compensation for the property for eminent domain.
#14 is damn near verbatim
#20 is verbatim left
Nearly everything contained in this Nazi manifesto is anti-capitalist, anti-conservative, and pro controlling government. #24 clearly articulates a condemnation of self-interest for the "benefit" of the common interest.
As a whole, and at its core, Nazism is MUCH closer to the left positions than it is to the right.
While #4 & #8 are clearly racist, and Making Germany Great Again is a key theme, I'm not seeing a whole lot of conservative or right-wing ideology here. Among other points, I think it interesting that John Keynes, the economist Obama patterned his economic policies after, was highly critical of the Treaty of Versailles as being too onerous. I agree with Obama, Hitler, and Keynes on this take, and it is clearly articulated as a root cause of the Nazi movement...by Hitler anyway. My detractors might want to use this as clear-cut evidence I'm a Neo-Nazi.
Some points lean right, some lean left, and others are verbatim left. I don't believe any of these points would be espoused verbatim by any leading republican.
#6 leans right with the exception of the who can work for the government
#10 starts right, but then goes hard left
#7 leans left in the first sentence
#11 leans left pretty hard
#17 The only difference between this being verbatim, is the compensation for the property for eminent domain.
#14 is damn near verbatim
#20 is verbatim left
Nearly everything contained in this Nazi manifesto is anti-capitalist, anti-conservative, and pro controlling government. #24 clearly articulates a condemnation of self-interest for the "benefit" of the common interest.
As a whole, and at its core, Nazism is MUCH closer to the left positions than it is to the right.
The NSDAP 25 points manifesto is a 25-point plan written by Anton Drexler and edited by Adolf Hitler for the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), Nazi Party, when it was founded in 1920.
1. We want all Germans to live in a "Greater Germany"
2. We want Germany to be treated the same as other nations, and we want the peace treaties of Versailles to be cancelled.
3. We want land and territory (colonies) to feed our people and to settle our surplus population.
4. Only Germans may be citizens of the Germany. Only those of the German races may be members of the nation, their religion does not matter. No Jew may be a citizen.
5. Non-citizens may live in Germany, but there will be special laws for foreigners living in Germany.
6. Only citizens can vote for parliament and councils, or vote on laws. Everyone who works for the German government, a state government or even a small village must be a citizen of Germany. We will stop giving people jobs because of the political party they are in, only the best people should get a job.
7. We think that the government's first job is to make sure every citizen has a job and enough to eat. If the government cannot do this, people who are not citizens should be made to leave Germany.
8. No-one who is not of a German-race should be allowed to live in Germany. We want anyone who is not of a German-race who started living in Germany after 2 August 1914 to leave the country.
9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.
10. Every citizen should have a job. Their work should not be selfish, but help everyone. Therefore we demand
11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work. The breaking of the slavery of interest
12. So many people die or lose their property in a war, it is wrong for other people to make money from the war. Anyone who made money from the war should have all that money taken away.
13. We want all very big corporations to be owned by the government.
14. Big industrial companies should share their profits with the workers.
15. We want old age pensions to be increased.
16. We want
- to create a healthy middle class
- to split up big department stores, and let small traders rent space inside them
- to make State and town governments try to buy from small traders.
17. We want to change the way land is owned. We also want
- a law to take over land if the country needs it, without the government having to pay for it;
- to abolish ground rent; and
- to prohibit land speculation (buying land just to sell to someone else for more money).
18. Crimes against the common interest must be punished with death.
19. We want the Roman law system changed for the German common law system.
20. We want to change the system of schools and education, so that every hard-working German can have the chance of higher education.
- What is taught should concentrate on practical things
- Schools should teach civic affairs, so that children can become good citizens
- If poor parent cannot afford to pay the government should pay for education.
21. The State must protect health standards by
- protecting mothers and infants
- stopping children from working
- making a law for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and
- supporting sports clubs for young men.
22. We want to get rid of the old army and replace it with a people's army that would look after the ordinary people, not just the rich officer-class
23. We want the law to stop politicians from being anti-German, and newspapers from writing about them. To make a German national press we demand:
- that all editors of, and writers in the German language newspapers are members of the nation (of a German race);
- Foreign newspapers need permission from the government. They must not be printed in the German language;
- Non-Germans cannot own or control German newspapers.
- any non German who does own or control a newspaper will be made to leave Germany, and the newspaper closed down,
- Newspapers which criticise the country or the government are not allowed.
- Art and books which support foreign ideas, should be banned.
24. We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. The NSDAP is Christian, but does not belong to any denomination. The NSDAP will fight the Jewish self-interest spirit, and believes that our nation will be strongest only if everyone puts the common interest before self-interest.
25. We will
- create a strong central government for the Reich;
- give Parliament control over the entire government and its organizations;
- form groups based on class and job to carry out the laws in the various German states.
1. We want all Germans to live in a "Greater Germany"
2. We want Germany to be treated the same as other nations, and we want the peace treaties of Versailles to be cancelled.
3. We want land and territory (colonies) to feed our people and to settle our surplus population.
4. Only Germans may be citizens of the Germany. Only those of the German races may be members of the nation, their religion does not matter. No Jew may be a citizen.
5. Non-citizens may live in Germany, but there will be special laws for foreigners living in Germany.
6. Only citizens can vote for parliament and councils, or vote on laws. Everyone who works for the German government, a state government or even a small village must be a citizen of Germany. We will stop giving people jobs because of the political party they are in, only the best people should get a job.
7. We think that the government's first job is to make sure every citizen has a job and enough to eat. If the government cannot do this, people who are not citizens should be made to leave Germany.
8. No-one who is not of a German-race should be allowed to live in Germany. We want anyone who is not of a German-race who started living in Germany after 2 August 1914 to leave the country.
9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.
10. Every citizen should have a job. Their work should not be selfish, but help everyone. Therefore we demand
11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work. The breaking of the slavery of interest
12. So many people die or lose their property in a war, it is wrong for other people to make money from the war. Anyone who made money from the war should have all that money taken away.
13. We want all very big corporations to be owned by the government.
14. Big industrial companies should share their profits with the workers.
15. We want old age pensions to be increased.
16. We want
- to create a healthy middle class
- to split up big department stores, and let small traders rent space inside them
- to make State and town governments try to buy from small traders.
17. We want to change the way land is owned. We also want
- a law to take over land if the country needs it, without the government having to pay for it;
- to abolish ground rent; and
- to prohibit land speculation (buying land just to sell to someone else for more money).
18. Crimes against the common interest must be punished with death.
19. We want the Roman law system changed for the German common law system.
20. We want to change the system of schools and education, so that every hard-working German can have the chance of higher education.
- What is taught should concentrate on practical things
- Schools should teach civic affairs, so that children can become good citizens
- If poor parent cannot afford to pay the government should pay for education.
21. The State must protect health standards by
- protecting mothers and infants
- stopping children from working
- making a law for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and
- supporting sports clubs for young men.
22. We want to get rid of the old army and replace it with a people's army that would look after the ordinary people, not just the rich officer-class
23. We want the law to stop politicians from being anti-German, and newspapers from writing about them. To make a German national press we demand:
- that all editors of, and writers in the German language newspapers are members of the nation (of a German race);
- Foreign newspapers need permission from the government. They must not be printed in the German language;
- Non-Germans cannot own or control German newspapers.
- any non German who does own or control a newspaper will be made to leave Germany, and the newspaper closed down,
- Newspapers which criticise the country or the government are not allowed.
- Art and books which support foreign ideas, should be banned.
24. We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. The NSDAP is Christian, but does not belong to any denomination. The NSDAP will fight the Jewish self-interest spirit, and believes that our nation will be strongest only if everyone puts the common interest before self-interest.
25. We will
- create a strong central government for the Reich;
- give Parliament control over the entire government and its organizations;
- form groups based on class and job to carry out the laws in the various German states.
