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That’s not entirely accurate.

It helps your pretense if he only uses comparisons/contrasts that you think suits your argument.

His was a good comparison for what he was saying that might have gone over your head.

And that is the entire basis of his argument: He cannot accept any argument that does not further an agenda.

or, as Solomon said, “Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." (Prov 18:2)

Of those 39,773 gun deaths in 2017, 60% were by suicide (23,854). So, contrary to your assertion above, most shooting deaths are, in fact, self-inflicted.

In 2017 there were 862,320 abortions. None were suicides. So of course you will understand the outrage felt over these numbers that dwarf shooting deaths by over 2,000%.

And while we're at it, as long as JQP is hiding behind your skirt, you can tell him I will accept a public apology for (1) defaming me and (2) violating the published rules of his own board. He knows where to find me.


www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

I guess I disagree, Credo.  I think liberals on average are pretty intelligent, maybe more than the average conservative.  However, they seem to lack the ability to convert intelligence into tangible results.  They can't manage a project worth a shit.  Just look at California, a virtual hotbed of liberal leadership.  They have thrown hundreds of millions of dollars at a public school system that keeps getting worse.  They have cities with incredible transportation gridlock, and their solution is road diets to reduce the number of traffic lanes.  They've thrown a billion dollars at homelessness, and it keeps getting worse.    Their solution to the problem is building condos at a cost of half a million dollars each to house those on the streets, as if putting a person with no job, or a mental illness, or a drug addiction into a $500,000 condo will somehow solve his problems.  They have thrown money after money at a bullet train that is now estimated to take three times as long and cost three times as much as originally planned...and there are still unresolved technical difficulties that might make it all impossible.  And with major unresolved housing, traffic, homelessness and education problems, they spend their time debating banning plastic straws.  Being smart is a great thing, but being clueless and incompetent in producing results makes it all a laughable clusterfluck.

The ones with whom I regularly interact, including Fordama, are very smart academically.  Many of them have advanced degrees in subjects like Mathematics.

but the all seem to lack intelligence, meaning the capacity to make AND SUPPORT a cogent argument and the ability (or maybe willingness) to acknowledge a superior argument.  This lack of what I am calling “intelligence” typically manifests itself with emotions supplanting facts because (I assume) they have no... or very few... facts to back up what they want to be true.

i find most, if not all of them spouting something they have read, possibly only a headline or a quick skim of an article, as if they understand the facts but, in reality, have not undertaken even the slightest critical review of the situation.  However, in all candor, i have also frequently taken conservatives and libertarians to task for the same failures.  A big difference being, most conservatives and libertarians acknowledge the error, some even thanking me for pointing it out, whereas liberals tend to keep flogging their dead horse...

Like I said, an incapacity to form a cogent argument.