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Post by MDDad on Oct 9, 2019 15:53:05 GMT -8
(Tongue in cheek) As it says at the beginning of every movie, "This post is intended strictly for entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent MDDad or his affiliates". Or maybe they do.
Now that we have reached the halfway point of the regular season and those transfers who opted to sit out five games rather than change residence are now eligible, it's time once again to award the 6th Annual Mustang Ranch Award to the Trinity League school that qualifies as the league's biggest brothel by virtue of having the most transfers on its varsity football team. The winners over the past five seasons were:
2014 - St. John Bosco
2015 - St. John Bosco
2016 - Servite
2017 - Orange Lutheran
2018 - St. John Bosco
And the 2019 Mustang Ranch Award goes to (drum roll please) none other than JSerra. Yes, the mighty Lions from San Juan Capistrano dethroned three-time award winner St. John Bosco to win this year's award. The final list of transfers on each team are:
24 - JSerra
22 - Servite
21 - Santa Margarita
20 - St. John Bosco
19 - Orange Lutheran
14 - Mater Dei
Congratulations to the JSerra Lions, the smallest school in the Trinity League. They proved once again that if one has the desire and is willing to throw around unlimited amounts of money, size doesn't matter and anything is possible. The King is dead, long live the King.
Editorial Comment: Mater Dei, widely regarded as the school that ruined high school football, has finished tied for third, third, fourth, tied for fourth, fifth and sixth in the six years the award has been handed out.
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 9, 2019 17:32:49 GMT -8
...the Trinity League school...having the most transfers on its varsity football team... Editorial Comment: Mater Dei, widely regarded as the school that ruined high school football, has finished tied for third, third, fourth, tied for fourth, fifth and sixth in the six years the award has been handed out. Since statistics can be molded to fit a pre-existing conclusion, can you define what was considered "transfers"? Is it players who transferred for just their senior year or is a transfer for any prior years considered? If a family moves, is it still considered a transfer if the student changes to the school that is closest to them (for example, a family who lived in Fullerton with their son at Servite moves to Coto De Caza & the kid transfers to SM)? Finally, if a student is not Catholic, has never attended a parochial grade school and lives over 20 miles from the school they apply to and are accepted at as freshmen, does that count as a transfer? After all, such a student was poached from the public high school they would have otherwise gone to, so they in all essence transferred in as a freshman (something Mission Viejo did with regularity during the BJ years). |
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Post by SK80 on Oct 9, 2019 17:53:09 GMT -8
Love these facts (So we are to believe) that just lay out more reason for transfers universities to separate themselves from the public school sport arena, field or whatever FAIR play ground. I'm still not sure actually what is the reasoning behind the idea if you have 20+ transfers on your squad and you are really freakin good.... so what and DUH. Thnx MDDad for the humor and the numbers. Can we say that it is the upstarts or restarts that are leading the pack as the last decade the front-runners had enough of an influx to sustain.... and I know you are a wiz with numbers can you now weight the quality of transfers on a scale and factor that in to results? Should make a good weekend project!  |
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Post by Credo on Oct 9, 2019 21:26:23 GMT -8
Bryce Young alone is worth at least 10 other transfers, so that would put Mater Dei into a tie with JSerra, according to my completely unbiased calculations.  |
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Post by outofstate on Oct 10, 2019 7:38:14 GMT -8
The 14 transfers for MD comprises their current roster over the past few years. I know they turned down transfers this year such as Loya. How many new transfers came in for this season? I can think of 5. Yetts, Dixon, Ford, Faatoalia, Mahlum. There could be others. How many transfers did the other schools get for this season?
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Post by Bick on Oct 10, 2019 7:44:16 GMT -8
Bryce Young alone is worth at least 10 other transfers, so that would put Mater Dei into a tie with JSerra, according to my completely unbiased calculations. How many xfers are the OC Buckeyes worth? |
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Post by Credo on Oct 10, 2019 7:54:11 GMT -8
Bryce Young alone is worth at least 10 other transfers, so that would put Mater Dei into a tie with JSerra, according to my completely unbiased calculations. How many xfers are the OC Buckeyes worth? As far as I know most of those Buckeye kids weren't transfers but enrolled as freshmen (Fifita, etc.). Bryce Young transferred in from Cathedral after his sophomore season. I will give Mater Dei credit for not taking senior transfers from their respective Trinity league rivals. If every school followed that (hello, Bosco!) it would turn down the volume considerably on the current state of bitterness. |
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Post by MDDad on Oct 10, 2019 8:02:19 GMT -8
Since statistics can be molded to fit a pre-existing conclusion, can you define what was considered "transfers"? Is it players who transferred for just their senior year or is a transfer for any prior years considered? If a family moves, is it still considered a transfer if the student changes to the school that is closest to them (for example, a family who lived in Fullerton with their son at Servite moves to Coto De Caza & the kid transfers to SM)? Finally, if a student is not Catholic, has never attended a parochial grade school and lives over 20 miles from the school they apply to and are accepted at as freshmen, does that count as a transfer? After all, such a student was poached from the public high school they would have otherwise gone to, so they in all essence transferred in as a freshman (something Mission Viejo did with regularity during the BJ years). RSM, the definition of a transfer is simple -- it's a kid who attends one high school and then moves on to another. It doesn't matter which of his school years he transfers, and it doesn't matter if he transfers to the school closest to his home. And being accepted as a freshman, regardless of the distance or his religion, is not a transfer, and it's not being poached from his local public school that he might have gone to. A kid can enroll in any high school for his freshman year because slavery ended in 1863. |
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Post by MDDad on Oct 10, 2019 8:04:45 GMT -8
Thnx MDDad for the humor and the numbers. Can we say that it is the upstarts or restarts that are leading the pack as the last decade the front-runners had enough of an influx to sustain.... and I know you are a wiz with numbers can you now weight the quality of transfers on a scale and factor that in to results? Should make a good weekend project! That might make an excellent weekend project, but it would be extremely difficult, subjective and time-consuming, it's above my pay grade, and it's outside my interest. |
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Post by MDDad on Oct 10, 2019 8:06:36 GMT -8
The 14 transfers for MD comprises their current roster over the past few years. I know they turned down transfers this year such as Loya. How many new transfers came in for this season? I can think of 5. Yetts, Dixon, Ford, Faatoalia, Mahlum. There could be others. How many transfers did the other schools get for this season? Mater Dei got six transfers this off-season, but only four of them play. Bosco got 13, JSerra got 12, OLu and Margarita got 10, and Servite got five. And in addition to the young man you mention, they also turned down seven other 4- and 5-star transfers. |
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Post by Bick on Oct 10, 2019 8:22:41 GMT -8
How many xfers are the OC Buckeyes worth? As far as I know most of those Buckeye kids weren't transfers but enrolled as freshmen (Fifita, etc.). Bryce Young transferred in from Cathedral after his sophomore season. I will give Mater Dei credit for not taking senior transfers from their respective Trinity league rivals. If every school followed that (hello, Bosco!) it would turn down the volume considerably on the current state of bitterness. About 5 or 6 names on this roster should look familiar to you. www.maxpreps.com/m/high-schools/los-alamitos-griffins-/football-fall-17/roster.htm |
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 10, 2019 16:33:21 GMT -8
...it's not being poached from his local public school that he might have gone to... Yes it is. An example that comes to mind was Chase Moline, who grew up within walking distance of Dana Hills. Bob Johnson from Mission Viejo poached him as an 8th grader, changing the results of MV & Dana Hills football for 4 years. For Christ sake, these are high school kids. They are supposed to be going to high school to learn, not to become part of a sports academy. They should not be recruited. If a kid has the talent to make it at the next level, it will shine through no matter if he plays at Mater Dei, Servite or Marina high school. Don't kid yourself, bringing in inner-city kids who have no idea what Catholicism is about and giving them a tuition free education at a Catholic high school is no different than accepting a kid who transfers from another school. Both are despicable. |
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Post by outofstate on Oct 10, 2019 17:19:31 GMT -8
The 14 transfers for MD comprises their current roster over the past few years. I know they turned down transfers this year such as Loya. How many new transfers came in for this season? I can think of 5. Yetts, Dixon, Ford, Faatoalia, Mahlum. There could be others. How many transfers did the other schools get for this season? Mater Dei got six transfers this off-season, but only four of them play. Bosco got 13, JSerra got 12, OLu and Margarita got 10, and Servite got five. And in addition to the young man you mention, they also turned down seven other 4- and 5-star transfers. Thanks. That’s confirms what I thought to be the case. |
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