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Post by Bick on Mar 31, 2020 11:41:57 GMT -8
Call me a little biased here, but...
1 - Magic 2 - Jordan 3 - Bird 4 - LeBron 5 - Wilt
With all those passers, would be close to impossible to beat.
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Post by Luca on Mar 31, 2020 12:37:02 GMT -8
The only close call I see is between Larry Bird and Kobe Bryant. They can both play small forward. Bird would be the better rebounder and passer but Kobe the better defender and scorer.
I'm glad you included Wilt Chamberlain rather than Kareem or, God forbid, Shaquille or Bill Russell. They talk about guys being a once-in-a-generation talent, but Chamberlain comes close to being a once in a lifetime talent with his ungodly strength, endurance, and all-around athletic ability. I've been watching some YouTube videos on Chamberlain and even if you believe only half the stories they are amazing. A 6"6' high jump, sub-50 second 440, running hurdles, a 4.4-second 40 (one of the ones for which skepticism is justified) and a reported 40 inch leap in his younger days.
Arnold Schwarzenegger tells a story of Wilt walking into a gym where all the serious weightlifters were doing tricep curls with 120lbs (which I did once myself but never even dreamed of moving up) and he would do 170lbs. 250+ pound centers tell stories about being carried up in the air along with Wilt when he'd go up for a dunk.
He could rebound, score, pass, run, play 48 minutes, shut down the key, and could dominate Bill Russell. Good choice..............................Luca
[Come to think of it, though, Schwarzenegger was probably talking about tricep curls with 120 pound dumbbells for each arm. That is incredible, to say nothing of 170 pounds]
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Post by MDDad on Mar 31, 2020 13:53:41 GMT -8
Center 1. Wilt Chamberlain 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. David Robinson
Power Forward 1. Karl Malone 2. Dirk Nowitzki 3. Kevin Garnett
Small Forward 1. LeBron James 2. Julius Erving 3. Larry Bird
Shooting Guard 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Reggie Miller
Point Guard 1. Oscar Robertson 2. Magic Johnson 3. Chris Paul
Greatest Of All Time 1. Wilt Chamberlain 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Michael Jordan 4. LeBron James 5. Oscar Robertson
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Post by MDDad on Mar 31, 2020 13:55:47 GMT -8
He could rebound, score, pass, run, play 48 minutes, shut down the key, and could dominate Bill Russell. Good choice..............................Luca Not to mention, never fouling out.
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Post by RSM789 on Mar 31, 2020 14:35:18 GMT -8
Center1. Wilt Chamberlain 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. David Robinson Power Forward1. Karl Malone 2. Dirk Nowitzki 3. Kevin Garnett I haven't decided on my picks, but I do have to call you out on yours above. As far as centers, it is ludicrous to leave Russell out of the top 3. Even if you don't want to put him above Wilt or Kareem, Russell was the embodiment of what a basketball player is supposed to be i.e., someone who makes his teammates better. He won 11 titles in 13 years, no one in professional sports has such a championship pedigree. He was the reason they won, Boston had no titles in the years before he arrived and none in the 5 years after he left. David Robinson only won when he had Tim Duncan at his side. While Duncan played both positions, he was basically a power forward more than a center. He won titles throughout his career with different teammates. Your top 3 could score, but had only 2 titles among all three, even though they were surrounded by talent for all of their careers. Tim Duncan belongs at the top of that Power Forward list.
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Post by Luca on Mar 31, 2020 21:23:37 GMT -8
Power Forward1. Karl Malone 2. Dirk Nowitzki 3. Kevin Garnett Small Forward1. LeBron James 2. Julius Erving 3. Larry Bird Shooting Guard1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Reggie Miller Point Guard1. Oscar Robertson 2. Magic Johnson 3. Chris Paul Greatest Of All Time1. Wilt Chamberlain 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Michael Jordan 4. LeBron James 5. Oscar Robertson Garnett and Nowitzki over Tim Duncan? And Reggie Miller over Steph Curry? Julius Erving was flashy but I think Bird was overall the better player If you’re going to say Curry hasn’t been around long enough, the same can be said for Chris Paul over John Stockton or Steve Nash
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Post by MDDad on Mar 31, 2020 21:29:16 GMT -8
Never mind. Screw it.
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Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2020 7:30:16 GMT -8
Jeez. Sen-suh-tive.
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Post by Bick on Apr 1, 2020 7:54:02 GMT -8
1 - Magic 2 - Jordan 3 - Bird 4 - LeBron 5 - Wilt
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Robertson Kobe Duncan Malone Shaq?
I don't think many of the top Centers could match up with Wilt physically. Thought about Russell, but a little short. Jabbar a little slight. Shaq could match up physically.
Also not sure if Duncan was a 3.
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Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2020 9:53:36 GMT -8
Even Magic Johnson says on YouTube that Shaq was not better than Kareem. I agree with that. Slight or not, I would bet that Kareem was the better scorer and defender while Shaq was the better rebounder.
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Post by Bick on Apr 1, 2020 18:36:20 GMT -8
He might be a little biased saying how they were teammates and all.
Who would you want to match up against Wilt in his prime? Shaq or kareem?
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Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2020 18:55:01 GMT -8
Shaq.
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Post by Luca on Apr 1, 2020 18:55:16 GMT -8
Shaq.
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 1, 2020 19:22:59 GMT -8
I agree, Shaq. It would have been interesting to see.
I also think it would be interesting to see how Russell would against Kareem & Shaq. He had a career playing against Chamberlain, so he had plenty of experience against a man who was bigger & stronger than him. Kareem probably had as good a basketball IQ as Russell, but Russell may have had more will. Kareem's mental toughness improved later in his career in the championship battles against the Celtics.
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Post by Bick on Dec 16, 2022 20:22:53 GMT -8
Larry Bird was pretty badass. Golden age of basketball.
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