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Post by Bick on Apr 25, 2020 9:38:44 GMT -8
In this case...yeah. I've been spitballing ideas since I was a kid. Some took, most didn't, and most all required more development to even be able to evaluate if they were legit. But I'm pretty sure all were grounded directionally, if nothing else. It would be entirely hypocritical to bash Trump for doing what I've engaged with most of my life. Now is he a visionary like Jobs in a technical way? No, and neither is Jobs a visionary like Trump is in a governance of the country way. However, both have significant, and I think beneficial, vision in their respective disciplines. And please, let's not go down the path of me having to clarify that Trump is not in any way qualified as a medical visionary. |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 26, 2020 3:46:59 GMT -8
Sometimes I give you a pass Hmmm the asshat is still promoting that long-dead, debunked nonsense about injecting oneself, eh? i really think he should try it before he’s allowed to criticize it. I see shit-for-brains is still pretending he doesn't read everything I post. But yet he responds. Is he really so stupid that he thinks people will believe him? |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 26, 2020 3:54:13 GMT -8
I wonder if there's a way we could take pellets from asteroids or meteorites and shove them up people's butts to cure colon cancer. Maybe it would work and maybe it wouldn't. I don't know, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm definitely thinking outside the box, so does that put me in the same class of visionaries as Steve Jobs and Donald Trump? Now you're just being facetious. Well, according to trump he was being sarcastic. Yet here you are trying to defend what he said...why? He gave up trying to defend his words yet here you are twisting the truth into a pretzel trying desperately to make your guy look good. Hilarious. |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 26, 2020 4:00:11 GMT -8
I've been spitballing ideas since I was a kid. Some took, most didn't, and most all required more development to even be able to evaluate if they were legit. But I'm pretty sure all were grounded directionally, if nothing else. Well, since you're not the president of the US that's probably ok. It's probably not OK for the president to stand in front of TV cameras and do the same thing and It's rather surprising that you think he should. Here's one reason you don't want trump spouting nonsense about all sorts of goofy cures on TV. The only people who will listen to him and try these possibly dangerous cures are going to be idiotic right-wing nut jobs. You won't be hurting any of those crazy leftists you guys hate so much since they won't believe a word trump says. |
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Post by Bick on Apr 26, 2020 7:06:13 GMT -8
I have no issue whatsoever that a president might hypothesize an unscripted response to an update from a medical expert. In fact, I welcome it as I'll seek to understand the context of the remarks. Conversely, I've got no interest engaging with anyone who says he believes the president was suggesting you inject yourself with a household disinfectant. Twitter, Facebook & the OCC forum would provide fertile ground of millions of like-minded individuals more than willing to engage in that level of discussion. It seems Hillary disagrees with your assessment that Dems don't believe a word he says, given she felt the need to Tweet out to her followers not to inject themselves with a disinfectant. I guess she believes her followers are a bunch of idiots that need such a warning. Either she's right, or believes she's right. I'll let you decide which, and the ramifications of that conclusion. I digress. For anyone interested in the topic of this thread, or in some conclusions that were formed subsequent to testing as a result of similar hypothesis decades ago, I found this piece from a NIH written a couple years ago about UV Irradiation of the blood. It's a pretty technical piece that wouldn't likely interest the politics only crowd. Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood - the cure that time forgotThis deals with a relatively new process of biphotonic therapy whereby UV light is introduced into transplanted lungs, which proved to be very effective against Hep-C and HIV-1 viruses. newatlas.com/biphotonic-therapy-transplant-organs/59285/ |
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 26, 2020 12:52:43 GMT -8
It would have been nice if that's what he said, but unfortunately your wishes didn't come true. What he actually said was much more embarrassing, and much more difficult for you to explain away with your fantasies. But keep trying, it's very amusing to watch you people gleefully humiliate yourselves. Wrong, wrong & wrong. |
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 26, 2020 13:02:49 GMT -8
Decades ago, Steve jobs told his employees that he wanted them a device that could make phone calls, access the internet and hold a giant music collection, all small enough to fit in his hand. He had no idea if such a thing could be made, no idea how to do it, but he leaned on those with the expertise until they came up with the iPhone. The left fawned over him, labeling him the genius for his vision and ignoring the experts who actually designed and created it. Please, RSM. I also saw Trump's entire exchange on this issue. To imply that he may be the same kind of medical visionary that Steve Jobs was as a technical one is beyond a stretch. I doubt Trump ever thought of any of that stuff before the minute it came out of his mouth. Steve Jobs was a marketer, not a technical genius. Wozniak was the one initially who took Jobs end product ideas and figured out how to make them come to fruition. Together, they made a great team, one a person with limited technical knowledge but willing to throw ideas out and the other a technical genius. Whether Trump thought of it before hand is irrelevant. All he did was ask if it was possible. I'll agree, that press conference was not the best place to have that discussion, but that transparency is what you get with Trump. MDDad, the thing I believe you miss about Trump is that for not all of his misgivings and faults, he would not put up with all that he has in order to be President. A person who had Trumps skill to run an organization, but with your or my demeanor when it comes to social interaction would have walked away from the presidency after about a week. The crap that is unloaded on this man day after day requires a person who is narcissistic & insecure to continue to fight it. In other words, the very personality traits you dislike about him are the reasons he chooses to stand in & fight as opposed to go off & live a life of luxury. |
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 26, 2020 13:04:24 GMT -8
I wonder if there's a way we could take pellets from asteroids or meteorites and shove them up people's butts to cure colon cancer. Maybe it would work and maybe it wouldn't. I don't know, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm definitely thinking outside the box, so does that put me in the same class of visionaries as Steve Jobs and Donald Trump? No, it puts you in the same class as most Mater Dei seniors. |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 26, 2020 21:26:07 GMT -8
Please, RSM. I also saw Trump's entire exchange on this issue. To imply that he may be the same kind of medical visionary that Steve Jobs was as a technical one is beyond a stretch. I doubt Trump ever thought of any of that stuff before the minute it came out of his mouth. MDDad, the thing I believe you miss about Trump is that for not all of his misgivings and faults, he would not put up with all that he has in order to be President. A person who had Trumps skill to run an organization, but with your or my demeanor when it comes to social interaction would have walked away from the presidency after about a week. The crap that is unloaded on this man day after day requires a person who is narcissistic & insecure to continue to fight it. In other words, the very personality traits you dislike about him are the reasons he chooses to stand in & fight as opposed to go off & live a life of luxury. I agree, we would both have probably walked away from all the crap after a week. But maybe that's because we aren't on some kind of adolescent power trip, and we don't treat everything like a fantasy camp. |
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 26, 2020 22:46:16 GMT -8
MDDad, the thing I believe you miss about Trump is that for not all of his misgivings and faults, he would not put up with all that he has in order to be President. A person who had Trumps skill to run an organization, but with your or my demeanor when it comes to social interaction would have walked away from the presidency after about a week. The crap that is unloaded on this man day after day requires a person who is narcissistic & insecure to continue to fight it. In other words, the very personality traits you dislike about him are the reasons he chooses to stand in & fight as opposed to go off & live a life of luxury. I agree, we would both have probably walked away from all the crap after a week. But maybe that's because we aren't on some kind of adolescent power trip, and we don't treat everything like a fantasy camp. Agreed, but it seems like that is the only type of person now that would be willing to put up with the abuse from the left as he governs to the right (mostly). Everyone else that would govern in the manner that you & I prefer would now wilt from the constant harassment from the left, until they become milk toast centrists afraid to take any real positive action. |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 27, 2020 6:04:56 GMT -8
Agreed, but it seems like that is the only type of person now that would be willing to put up with the abuse from the left as he governs to the right (mostly). Everyone else that would govern in the manner that you & I prefer would now wilt from the constant harassment from the left, until they become milk toast centrists afraid to take any real positive action. Given America's current culture when it comes to political courtesy and tolerance, do you think it would (or will) be any different with a Democrat in the White House? Joe "Weekend At Bernie's" Biden will be abused like an Albanian sex slave should he be unfortunate enough to win in November (or at least until he abdicates and turns the throne over to Hillary. Then it will get worse). |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 27, 2020 6:15:49 GMT -8
And after thinking about it for a while, perhaps the people in both parties who are ignorant enough to inject Clorox into their veins should be allowed to do so. The results would raise the collective IQ of the electorate by 30 points.
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Post by davidsf on Apr 27, 2020 8:00:09 GMT -8
And after thinking about it for a while, perhaps the people in both parties who are ignorant enough to inject Clorox into their veins should be allowed to do so. The results would raise the collective IQ of the electorate by 30 points. I’m thinking the same thing: Let the herd thin itself of the slow and uninformed. *countdown to Vile boy loping in to accuse us of being serious in 10...9...8...7... |
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 27, 2020 18:11:23 GMT -8
Agreed, but it seems like that is the only type of person now that would be willing to put up with the abuse from the left as he governs to the right (mostly). Everyone else that would govern in the manner that you & I prefer would now wilt from the constant harassment from the left, until they become milk toast centrists afraid to take any real positive action. Given America's current culture when it comes to political courtesy and tolerance, do you think it would (or will) be any different with a Democrat in the White House? Yes, because the media gives the left a pass. Look at the current situation with the sexual assault allegation against Biden. I don't know if it is true, but it has much more credibility than the blonde who testified against Kavanaugh, yet the press response is utter silence. There were 3 women who are potential VP candidates on the Biden ticket who appeared on the Sunday talk shows yesterday and there was not a single question about the growing credibility of this accusation. The media runs interference for the left and creates fake news against the right. That is enough to make all but a few refuse to run for president on the Republican ticket. |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 28, 2020 3:24:18 GMT -8
Given America's current culture when it comes to political courtesy and tolerance, do you think it would (or will) be any different with a Democrat in the White House? Yes, because the media gives the left a pass. Look at the current situation with the sexual assault allegation against Biden. I don't know if it is true, but it has much more credibility than the blonde who testified against Kavanaugh, yet the press response is utter silence. There were 3 women who are potential VP candidates on the Biden ticket who appeared on the Sunday talk shows yesterday and there was not a single question about the growing credibility of this accusation. The media runs interference for the left and creates fake news against the right. That is enough to make all but a few refuse to run for president on the Republican ticket. You poor picked-on people. I honestly don't know how you get up in the morning and face such a hostile world. Why it's enough to make a Christian white man in America cry what with all the advantages you don't have and all the persecution you suffer. ROFL. What a bunch of snowflakes. |
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