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Post by Oakley on Apr 8, 2020 14:29:00 GMT -8
Yes, I agree: As I said in the OP: Can you explain why you said the Commander might not have been well-intended? |
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Post by davidsf on Apr 9, 2020 5:39:51 GMT -8
Yes, I agree: As I said in the OP: Can you explain why you said the Commander might not have been well-intended? I made it conditional because I don’t know the man and was not aware at the time of the outcome of any investigation. however, since then I have spoken to a friend of mine who retired as an Admiral and was the commander in chief of the Pacific Surface Fleet at one time. He filled me in on some other facts that surely indicate Crozier, the CO, did not have the best of intentions. first, just days prior to the incident, he had spoken to both the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) and SECNAV, both of whom are in his chain of command. They were asking if he had all he needed to handle the COVID-19 infection aboard his ship. He confirmed he did. He then sent out an email memo to many who were outside his chain of command making it sound like no one was listening to him, AND he leaked a copy of the memo. Even had CNO and SECNAV not spoken to him, sending that memo outside of his chain of command (never mind leaking it) would not have been tolerated. He definitely should have been relieved of command. |
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Post by Oakley on Apr 9, 2020 14:42:08 GMT -8
Can you explain why you said the Commander might not have been well-intended? I made it conditional because I don’t know the man and was not aware at the time of the outcome of any investigation. however, since then I have spoken to a friend of mine who retired as an Admiral and was the commander in chief of the Pacific Surface Fleet at one time. He filled me in on some other facts that surely indicate Crozier, the CO, did not have the best of intentions. first, just days prior to the incident, he had spoken to both the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) and SECNAV, both of whom are in his chain of command. They were asking if he had all he needed to handle the COVID-19 infection aboard his ship. He confirmed he did. He then sent out an email memo to many who were outside his chain of command making it sound like no one was listening to him, AND he leaked a copy of the memo. Even had CNO and SECNAV not spoken to him, sending that memo outside of his chain of command (never mind leaking it) would not have been tolerated. He definitely should have been relieved of command. I agree, he should have been relieved of command. It's puzzling that a commander of an aircraft carrier would have even considered going outside the chain of command. He must have known he was putting his career in jeopardy. Weird. |
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Post by davidsf on Apr 9, 2020 15:42:43 GMT -8
I made it conditional because I don’t know the man and was not aware at the time of the outcome of any investigation. however, since then I have spoken to a friend of mine who retired as an Admiral and was the commander in chief of the Pacific Surface Fleet at one time. He filled me in on some other facts that surely indicate Crozier, the CO, did not have the best of intentions. first, just days prior to the incident, he had spoken to both the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) and SECNAV, both of whom are in his chain of command. They were asking if he had all he needed to handle the COVID-19 infection aboard his ship. He confirmed he did. He then sent out an email memo to many who were outside his chain of command making it sound like no one was listening to him, AND he leaked a copy of the memo. Even had CNO and SECNAV not spoken to him, sending that memo outside of his chain of command (never mind leaking it) would not have been tolerated. He definitely should have been relieved of command. I agree, he should have been relieved of command. It's puzzling that a commander of an aircraft carrier would have even considered going outside the chain of command. He must have known he was putting his career in jeopardy. Weird. The retired Admiral said something similar: SECNAV said Crozier was either too naive or too stupid, the Admiral said he doubted he was stupid. |
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Post by davidsf on Apr 24, 2020 16:25:33 GMT -8
For those who thought this was a done deal, SURPRISE: Navy recommends Capt. Crozier be reinstated as aircraft carrier commander
Note the “acting Navy Secretary “ is not the same acting Navy Secretary who fired him. The article doesn’t say WHY they are thinking of reinstating him, but the smart money is on the former acting Navy Secretary accusing him of being “too naive or too stupid” to be in command. The Navy has never condoned casting aspersions on the intelligence of its leadership. |
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