davidsf
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Post by davidsf on May 29, 2020 8:08:17 GMT -8
I can’t think of a better place for this, so rather than start a new thread: we are seeing voter fraud unfold right before us as the democrats are arranging their everything including the kitchen sink, scorched earth program to steal the November election: - Relentless disrespect and disparagement of the president,
- A pandemic intended to A)Frustrate Americans and especially B)tear down our economy (sub-point, bring down our standard of living) and
- The suspending of our Constitutional rights under the guise of “protecting”us
- The every-four-year racial uprising that, this time, will be coordinated across the U.S.
it is all unfolding before us and we can expect more events over the next 4 or 5 months...
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Jun 25, 2020 7:20:34 GMT -8
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Jul 30, 2020 20:42:18 GMT -8
Trump trolled the media bigly today by floating the idea of postponing the election (which he knows he cannot do).
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Post by MDDad on Jul 30, 2020 21:27:01 GMT -8
When he says 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT election in history, does he stand by that if he wins?
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 31, 2020 2:25:00 GMT -8
Trump trolled the media bigly today by floating the idea of postponing the election (which he knows he cannot do). Yeah...trump "trolled" the media by showing them once again just how stupid he is...what a brilliant tactician. ROFL |
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Jul 31, 2020 5:46:21 GMT -8
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Post by MDDad on Jul 31, 2020 6:04:30 GMT -8
It boggles the mind that the oldest continuous representative democracy in human history suddenly doesn't know how to hold an honest election.
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davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Jul 31, 2020 6:10:14 GMT -8
It boggles the mind that the oldest continuous representative democracy in human history suddenly doesn't know how to hold an honest election. Oh, we ALL know how. but some...possibly most... already in power want to preserve and even increase that power, so they (on both sides) have been trying to perfect the voter scam whereby they control the outcome. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 31, 2020 6:48:28 GMT -8
VP, help me understand your political party’s reasoning that mass protests do not contribute to the spread of covid, but in person voting does?
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Jul 31, 2020 10:14:57 GMT -8
When he says 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT election in history, does he stand by that if he wins? Yes, of course. During the 2016 campaign Trump repeatedly referred to the election as "rigged", which forced the Democrats to deny that such a thing was possible--since they fully expected Hillary to win and didn't want anything tainting her all-but-assured victory. Obama even famously chided Trump 'you couldn't possibly rig a Presidential election.' This was a classic case of Trump knowing that his detractors will take him literally but not seriously, while his supporters do the opposite--take him seriously (figuratively, if you will) but not literally. He did the same thing yesterday. What Trump meant in 2016 in saying the election was "rigged" was that the media, their polls, and the Obama administration (via the DOJ/FBI's whitewashing of Hillary's email crimes) were all working hand-in-glove to tilt things in favor of his opponent--which was obvious to anyone with eyes to see. (Little did we know that the FBI was already spying on and targeting him improperly.) The 2016 "rigged" charge served a couple of purposes: it motivated his base to come out to vote in opposition to the establishment powers, and it gave him something of an excuse if he were in fact to lose. It also played into the Democrats overconfidence (which they still hold today) and made them look pretty ridiculous when they suddenly claimed, after their unexpected loss, that Trump was aided by Putin in winning the election (their own charge of "rigging.") He knows full well that the Democrats today are using COVID as an excuse to engage in massive mail-in ballot fraud, and he's simply calling their bluff. Since he is--again--in the position of the underdog, he loses nothing by inferring the upcoming election will be rife with fraud. It's easy to research and see that about 90% of actual voting fraud cases are to the benefit of the Democrats. What he's trying to do is force Democrats into the position of supporting in-person voting on election day, since this is the best way to ensure an accurate accounting of votes. No one wants to go through multiple 2000 Florida-like recounts. |
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Post by Credo on Jul 31, 2020 10:17:49 GMT -8
It boggles the mind that the oldest continuous representative democracy in human history suddenly doesn't know how to hold an honest election. There's one simple way to guarantee an honest election--requiring voter I.D. at all polling stations. This is how business all across America EVERY DAY guarantee honest credit card use, prevent underage alcohol purchases, and provide security at airports. But guess which party is hysterically opposed to this simple measure? |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 31, 2020 10:27:45 GMT -8
When he says 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT election in history, does he stand by that if he wins? Yes, of course. During the 2016 campaign Trump repeatedly referred to the election as "rigged", which forced the Democrats to deny that such a thing was possible--since they fully expected Hillary to win and didn't want anything tainting her all-but-assured victory. Obama even famously chided Trump 'you couldn't possibly rig a Presidential election.' This was a classic case of Trump knowing that his detractors will take him literally but not seriously, while his supporters do the opposite--take him seriously (figuratively, if you will) but not literally. He did the same thing yesterday. What Trump meant in 2016 in saying the election was "rigged" was that the media, their polls, and the Obama administration (via the DOJ/FBI's whitewashing of Hillary's email crimes) were all working hand-in-glove to tilt things in favor of his opponent--which was obvious to anyone with eyes to see. (Little did we know that the FBI was already spying on and targeting him improperly.) The 2016 "rigged" charge served a couple of purposes: it motivated his base to come out to vote in opposition to the establishment powers, and it gave him something of an excuse if he were in fact to lose. It also played into the Democrats overconfidence (which they still hold today) and made them look pretty ridiculous when they suddenly claimed, after their unexpected loss, that Trump was aided by Putin in winning the election (their own charge of "rigging.") He knows full well that the Democrats today are using COVID as an excuse to engage in massive mail-in ballot fraud, and he's simply calling their bluff. Since he is--again--in the position of the underdog, he loses nothing by inferring the upcoming election will be rife with fraud. It's easy to research and see that about 90% of actual voting fraud cases are to the benefit of the Democrats. What he's trying to do is force Democrats into the position of supporting in-person voting on election day, since this is the best way to ensure an accurate accounting of votes. No one wants to go through multiple 2000 Florida-like recounts. So if he loses, it's because the election was rigged, inaccurate and fraudulent, but if he wins it's because he's so great that he can overcome even an election that is rigged, inaccurate and fraudulent? |
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Post by Credo on Jul 31, 2020 10:41:14 GMT -8
So if he loses, it's because the election was rigged, inaccurate and fraudulent, but if he wins it's because he's so great that he can overcome even an election that is rigged, inaccurate and fraudulent? Not so much that "he's so great" but that the support for Biden--like Hillary--is nowhere near as strong as the media would like us to believe. This was true in 2016 and it will be true on November 4. That may sound cynical, but just wait until the Democrats go ape-sh_t when he wins re-election. |
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Post by SK80 on Aug 2, 2020 6:02:09 GMT -8
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Post by thefrog on Aug 3, 2020 7:58:38 GMT -8
Again, I’d like to hear a valid argument as to why protests are permissible, but in-person voting “furthers the spread of covid”
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