Credo
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Post by Credo on May 26, 2020 18:00:43 GMT -8
The virus, while perhaps beginning as an object of genuine--if misplaced--concern, has long ceased to be about anything other than defeating Donald Trump. The actions of the Democrat governors of NY, NJ, PA, IL, MI, and CA make that abundantly clear.
To that end the mask has become nothing more than a symbol of political virtue signaling. As the most visible form of identifying the divide between freedom and slavery, conservative vs. liberal, Pro-Trump or Resistance, it deserves its own thread. The sheep richly deserve to be mocked.
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Post by SK80 on May 26, 2020 18:20:42 GMT -8
I'm with you on most fronts but I can not stand behind the notion its about "anything" but defeating Trump. Although the science and data is not their some logic is. How far it has gone and what is has NOW become I am with you. This will be a fascinating study in history...., I've mentioned this from the get go, it was turning into a SAFE way to be ANTIFA without really being tagged ANTIFA or RADICAL. I then structured all this around the idea that its a SAFE way to be RESISTANCE or a part of the RESIST MOVEMENT without having to place a bumper sticker on your vehicle. You were SAFE, you could tie DEATH to your argument.
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Post by Credo on May 26, 2020 18:37:36 GMT -8
I'm with you on most fronts but I can not stand behind the notion its about "anything" but defeating Trump. Although the science and data is not their some logic is. How far it has gone and what is has NOW become I am with you. This will be a fascinating study in history...., I've mentioned this from the get go, it was turning into a SAFE way to be ANTIFA without really being tagged ANTIFA or RADICAL. I then structured all this around the idea that its a SAFE way to be RESISTANCE or a part of the RESIST MOVEMENT without having to place a bumper sticker on your vehicle. You were SAFE, you could tie DEATH to your argument. It might be better to say that defeating Trump is merely the necessary means to the ends of restoring the D.C. Swamp to unimpeded power and imposing more statism/socialism on the nation by hook or by crook. Trump--and the voters--are the only thing standing in their way right now.
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Post by RSM789 on May 26, 2020 20:10:38 GMT -8
My body, my choice.
For most, mask wearing is a kabuki dance, all theater, no different than forcing 80 year old women to take off their shoes at the airport. If you are in the high risk group and are nervous about going outside, then go ahead & put a mask on. For everyone else, it is indeed either virtue signaling or a sign of fear due to weeks of being hammered by misleading & incorrect statistics and narrative about a virus.
I tell you, the first business, casino or restaurant that gives the middle finger to the mask pushers and operates in a manner that they did prior to March 12th, will see a wave of business from people like myself. Unfortunately, too many corporations are cowards and will prostitute themselves by doing just about anything politically correct to make money. I feel sorry for their employees, being used as puppets because CEO's & the underlings don't have a spine.
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Post by Credo on May 28, 2020 10:34:59 GMT -8
More on masks, from an article in the New England Journal of Medicine (but what do they know?):
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Post by Credo on May 28, 2020 20:43:36 GMT -8
- If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19. - Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
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Post by Credo on Aug 3, 2020 15:50:54 GMT -8
Japan--with about 100% mask compliance--is also now facing a big upsurge in cases. Masking mainly prevents the necessary spread among healthy people needed to achieve herd immunity. Yet another COVID policy the public health "experts" have flip-flopped on and still can't get right.
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Post by Luca on Aug 3, 2020 16:17:47 GMT -8
The revolution came home today.
At lunch I walked across to the local CVS to pick up a couple protein bars that I usually have for lunch. When I looked at the entrance, I didn't see anything about masks being required (stores usually put it in big letters) and so went inside.
As I was waiting in the checkout line, standing on the usual good-boy dot on the floor 6-feet away from the people in front of me, I started hearing harsh voices. I looked at the 50 something woman with her 20 something daughter six feet away who were both glaring at me and yelling about not wearing a mask, demanding to know why I wasn't.
"You don't have to." "Yes you do." "Where's it say that?? "On the door."
I looked at the door again and didn't see anything but figured it was just easier to put the mask on and forget about it. Fine.
But the 20 something couldn't let up. She kept raising her voice and shouting how because I probably wanted to die but she wanted to live and who the hell did I think I was to dare walk around without a mask, etc. etc.
It was so surreal I started laughing, which only pissed her off more. The mom then demanded of the checkout clerk why I wasn't tossed out of the store for not wearing a mask and how she would "report" the store for that offense. The girl said something about "fascist" and "black lives matter" at which point the black lady 12 feet behind me started yelling at the 20 something and the whole line started to erupt.
I couldn't stop laughing because the girl took herself so seriously and obviously had no clue what the word "fascist" meant, only that it's something you're supposed to use when you're authentically woke. Like her.
She said "You only give a damn about yourself." "Of course", I answered. "I'm a fascist."
The 2 of them then left, drowning each other out in their high-volume woke rhetoric. The clerk actually followed them out of the store and the black lady behind me for reasons unclear felt compelled to apologize to me for the whole scene.
It was all highly entertaining. I'll try it again next week.................Luca
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Post by thefrog on Aug 3, 2020 16:46:42 GMT -8
There are some crazies out there.
You didn't mention that you're an actual doctor?
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Post by Bick on Aug 3, 2020 17:35:17 GMT -8
I know them...Karen's, right?
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Post by Luca on Aug 3, 2020 18:03:08 GMT -8
I didn’t get the impression that rationality was going to play a major role in the encounter.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 3, 2020 18:03:22 GMT -8
Japan--with about 100% mask compliance--is also now facing a big upsurge in cases. One thing that's very difficult for the general population like us to discern is the difference between an upsurge in cases and an upsurge in the number of positive tests. For example, in the hospital where my son works (and I assume in most other hospitals as well), patients with COVID who are sick enough to be admitted are tested for the virus every day or two. So they often test positive for ten day or two weeks before they are well enough to be released. Not surprisingly, every one of those positive tests is recorded as just that, another positive test, but in the cumulative totals that are published every day, it looks like 14 new people have come down with the virus, whereas it's really just one sick person who has been tested every day for two weeks. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd think this whole accounting scheme and labeling protocol were intentionally designed that way to make the numbers as artificially high as possible.
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 3, 2020 19:42:29 GMT -8
I didn’t get the impression that rationality was going to play a major role in the encounter. I will pay good money to see the look on mom & daughters face the day they walk into your office for their first consultation with you about some medical procedure. Please, oh please, tell them that they need to remove their clothes while in the waiting room...
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 3, 2020 19:48:35 GMT -8
...standing on the usual good-boy dot on the floor 6-feet away from the people in front of me, I started hearing harsh voices. I looked at the 50 something woman with her 20 something daughter six feet away who were both glaring at me and yelling about not wearing a mask, demanding to know why I wasn't. .................Luca I believe CDC guidelines are to wear a mask WHEN you can't stay 6 feet away from people. If you can keep your distance, the CDC says masks aren't needed. Further, those guidelines (at least in the advertisements) are for those in the high risk categories, not the public at large. Somehow, that has been forgotten.
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Post by Credo on Aug 5, 2020 21:43:36 GMT -8
Great article with plenty of data showing that face masks--even in nations with close to 100% compliance--do nothing to "eliminate" COVID-19. No human intervention is going to eradicate a respiratory virus. Herd immunity at roughly 20% population infection is the only way.
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