RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 12, 2020 9:40:56 GMT -8
I see no problem with an organized boycott for any reason, and neither should you.. There is alot to unravel in that simple sentence. As an extreme example, if someone organized a boycott against a company because the CEO was gay, you would see a problem with that, as would everyone else on this forum. Organizing a boycott is more than just voicing your opinion, it is an attempt to use financial hardship against an organization in order to get them to change something they are doing or someone they have employed. The ramifications of such action are huge, so to do it for "any reason" is like handing a gun to a 5 year old. Boycotts are a tool that should only be used when necessary, not every time a snowflake lefty gets their feelings hurt. What is the difference between attempting to cut off a companies financial wherewithal via a boycott and a hacker setting up ransomware? Both situations have a person or group demanding something from the company or else the company will go under. Boycotts "for any reason" are nothing but extortion. To say that "neither should you" implies that Bick is wrong if he doesn't agree with you. It does not allow for a difference of opinion. It is the modus operandi of the left now, that what they believe is the only truth. It is nothing more than an attempt to quash dissent. The Goya boycott is a wonderful example of the differences between the left & the right. The CEO of Goya has said positive things about both President Obama & President Trump. When he did the former, there was no call from the right for boycott. People may have disliked it, some on the right may have decided that they would no longer buy Goya foods, but an organized boycott of the company was not appropriate & never done. The left took a different stance, predicated upon the theorem " Orange Man Bad" as opposed to something rational. The irony of the attempted boycott of Goya is that those boycotting a simple compliment of President Trump see no reason why anyone should organize a boycott of the NFL if they condone players kneeling during the national anthem. |
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Post by Credo on Jul 12, 2020 20:18:25 GMT -8
Leftist boycotts almost always fail, simply because the hard Left only represents a small portion of the U.S. population. It didn't work with Chick-fil-A, and I guarantee you that this idiotic attempt to shame the Goya CEO will result in Goya's highest ever annual sales.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 12, 2020 20:34:04 GMT -8
GOYA GO YAYA GO GO YA GOOOOOOYAAAAAA!!!!
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Post by Bick on Jul 13, 2020 8:56:31 GMT -8
Leftist boycotts almost always fail, simply because the hard Left only represents a small portion of the U.S. population. It didn't work with Chick-fil-A, and I guarantee you that this idiotic attempt to shame the Goya CEO will result in Goya's highest ever annual sales. I hadn't even HEARD of Goya before this. But if we're really going to do this political thing and boycott simply on the basis of R or D, I guess I'll follow suit and restrict my purchases to my party. Does anyone here know where I can find Independent businesses to support? |
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Post by Credo on Jul 13, 2020 10:47:36 GMT -8
Leftist boycotts almost always fail, simply because the hard Left only represents a small portion of the U.S. population. It didn't work with Chick-fil-A, and I guarantee you that this idiotic attempt to shame the Goya CEO will result in Goya's highest ever annual sales. I hadn't even HEARD of Goya before this. But if we're really going to do this political thing and boycott simply on the basis of R or D, I guess I'll follow suit and restrict my purchases to my party. Does anyone here know where I can find Independent businesses to support? I haven't heard much about any of the supermarkets getting into the political fray. Later today when I GOYA to Vons to pick up beer I'm GOYAing to engage in a counter-BUYcott by picking up a couple of GOYA products, which I have never done before. The Silent Majority can also vote with their checkbook. |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 13, 2020 11:20:58 GMT -8
Hell, yeah. The next time I run low on tapioca starch, codfish fritter mix or guava paste, I'll certainly buy Goya.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Jul 13, 2020 12:01:37 GMT -8
Happened last Friday night. This seems likely to have been an act of arson, considering the attacks on Fr. Junipero Serra that have been going on the past month. But still amazing that this received almost no coverage in the media. If these assaults on Christianity continue, the topic might need its own thread.
We took our son here a few years ago for his 4th grade Mission Project, so this hits home even harder.
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Post by Credo on Jul 13, 2020 12:39:25 GMT -8
These people are insane and can never be given power. The Patriots and the 49ers will be next on the chopping block.
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 13, 2020 12:54:37 GMT -8
Happened last Friday night. This seems likely to have been an act of arson, considering the attacks on Fr. Junipero Serra that have been going on the past month. But still amazing that this received almost no coverage in the media. If these assaults on Christianity continue, the topic might need its own thread. What assaults on Christianity? If people have a problem with Fr. Junipero Serra it's not a problem with Christianity...but nice try. It's the same if people have a problem with Catholics who screw children...it doesn't mean they are anti-christian, just anti child screwing. BTW, there was plenty of coverage in the media. |
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 13, 2020 20:06:30 GMT -8
... It's the same if people have a problem with Catholics who screw children...it doesn't mean they are anti-christian, just anti child screwing. Ironically, whenever one of us have a problem with you acting like a dick, you say it is because we are homophobic. Two points of contention with your statement. The first is there has never been a scandal of Catholics (plural) screwing children. The scandal involved pedophiles infiltrating the Catholic clergy in order to get access to children and the Catholic church's decision to move those pedophiles around to different churches instead of turning them over to the police. Yet you describe it as 'Catholics screwing children", which shows an obvious anti christian bias on your part. The second is the only time you have ever written anything negative about pedophiles is when referencing the Catholic church scandal and when describing Mary Kay Letourneou. You seem to give all other pedophiles a free ride, so to speak. If you only condemn pedophiles when they have an association with Catholicism, it would be an example of you having a anti Christian or anti Catholic bias. Of course, you can change the perception you have created by publicly denouncing NAMBLA as pedophiles who belong in prison. Would you make that denouncement? |
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Post by Credo on Jul 13, 2020 21:53:20 GMT -8
... It's the same if people have a problem with Catholics who screw children...it doesn't mean they are anti-christian, just anti child screwing. Coming from a member of the group that was overwhelmingly responsible for the sexual abuse of adolescent boys among an incredibly small percentage of Catholic priests, that's pretty rich. ICYMI, the Catholic Church never really had a major pedophilia problem, but rather had a problem of ephebophilia among homosexual men who should have been weeded out of the seminary long before ordination. 81% of the victims of clergy abuse were male (and 90% of those between the ages of 11-17), and, no, this wasn't due to celibacy or simply a "crime of opportunity" because most altar servers were boys during that time (many abused boys were never altar servers). Heterosexual men do not suddenly gain an interest in 13-year-old boys because they have taken a vow to renounce marriage; if they want to have sex with women, as any healthy man desires, they will do so. This fascination with and grooming of adolescent boys by homosexual men has long been a feature of gay subculture--it's dirty little secret. Same thing happened in the Boy Scouts. Nothing new under the sun, as the problem of sodomy goes all the way back to the Book of Genesis, where this unnatural, unsanitary, and dangerous practice gets its name. Shots fired; shots returned. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 14, 2020 2:35:21 GMT -8
ICYMI, the Catholic Church never really had a major pedophilia problem, but rather had a problem of ephebophilia among homosexual men who should have been weeded out of the seminary long before ordination. So, you don't like being lumped together with all those other Catholic pedophiles? I guess it's about as accurate as all your rants about "the left". Carry on. BTW, the church definitely had a major problem with pedophilia...and still does. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 14, 2020 2:38:05 GMT -8
... It's the same if people have a problem with Catholics who screw children...it doesn't mean they are anti-christian, just anti child screwing. Ironically, whenever one of us have a problem with you acting like a dick, you say it is because we are homophobic. And when people accuse you of acting like a dick...it's just because you're acting like a dick. Are you anti-child screwing?...I mean you didn't say so and that might lead idiots like you to make the wrong assumption, so I'd publicly denounce it if I were you. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 14, 2020 2:40:17 GMT -8
... It's the same if people have a problem with Catholics who screw children...it doesn't mean they are anti-christian, just anti child screwing. The second is the only time you have ever written anything negative about pedophiles is when referencing the Catholic church scandal and when describing Mary Kay Letourneou. You seem to give all other pedophiles a free ride, so to speak. If you only condemn pedophiles when they have an association with Catholicism, it would be an example of you having a anti Christian or anti Catholic bias. Of course, you can change the perception you have created by publicly denouncing NAMBLA as pedophiles who belong in prison. Would you make that denouncement? And you could destroy your public image as an idiot by posting something intelligent...would you make the effort? |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 14, 2020 5:41:50 GMT -8
As usual, Vile boy dig himself a hole and, disregarding common sense as RSM and Credo have ably explained, continues to dig.
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