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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 3:35:29 GMT -8
No, this happened in trump's America...own it. That statement is only true if.... It's true because trump is the president and he's responsible for what happens on his watch. I understand that you and he don't like to accept responsibility and you wish you could blame this on the left or democrats but when you're the guy in charge the buck stops on your desk....Republicans used to understand this and believe it...what happened to your sense of responsibility? The same thing that happened to all your former Republican values like fiscal conservatism, fair play etc....they got flushed down the trump toilet. If only you were honest about the transient nature of your convictions.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 27, 2020 6:18:00 GMT -8
Jesus, VP, I've never met anyone who talks out of both sides of his ass as much as you do. You want to hold Trump responsible, but when he assumes that responsibility and dispatches federal law enforcement to restore order, you whine about that. Why don't you just articulate what you want him to do, if you can, rather than just whine about both sides?
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Post by thefrog on Aug 27, 2020 6:33:39 GMT -8
Jesus, VP, I've never met anyone who talks out of both sides of his ass as much as you do. You want to hold Trump responsible, but when he assumes that responsibility and dispatches federal law enforcement to restore order, you whine about that. Why don't you just articulate what you want him to do, if you can, rather than just whine about both sides? I’m actually more curious as to what Joe would do. Crickets.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 6:44:28 GMT -8
You want to hold Trump responsible, but when he assumes that responsibility and dispatches federal law enforcement to restore order, you whine about that. Why don't you just articulate what you want him to do, if you can, rather than just whine about both sides? I don't WANT to hold trump responsible, he IS responsible, period. That's the nature of the job...the Buck Stops Here. I'm sorry if you think it's unfair but that's the way it is. This shit didn't happen while Biden was president it happened while trump was in the Oval Office. Deal with it. Yes, I object when he acts outside his authority or in a heavy-handed manner...just as I would object if he threatened to send protesters to Gitmo.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 6:48:03 GMT -8
Jesus, VP, I've never met anyone who talks out of both sides of his ass as much as you do. And I've never met a man as bitter and mean-spirited as you. I guess we'll both have to learn how to live with our good fortune.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 7:14:26 GMT -8
Why don't you just articulate what you want him to do, if you can, rather than just whine about both sides? I don't whine about both sides, that's your schtick...you like to claim you're above the fray all the while you're going after the evil "left". What I would like trump to do is largely stay out of it because he has a tendency to make things worse, and because it's not the president's job to police Kenosha Wi., or Portland OR. The president should be more like this guy:
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Post by MDDad on Aug 27, 2020 7:53:57 GMT -8
This shit didn't happen while Biden was president... And apparently your mind is just as sharp as his.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 9:33:25 GMT -8
Sheesh MDDad, I didn't think I needed to explain everything...oh well...Credo was the one who started this whole exchange when he claimed that the present situation in Kenosha WI is "Joe Biden's America"...then I responded with my statement about how it's actually trump's America, and then your nonsense, and here we are...now what was that you were saying about having a sharp mind?
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Post by MDDad on Aug 27, 2020 9:40:29 GMT -8
You can't talk your way out of this one, Slick.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 27, 2020 9:45:24 GMT -8
Sorry sport, if the discussion is beyond your comprehension perhaps you should just sit and watch.
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Post by Oakley on Aug 27, 2020 10:41:19 GMT -8
vile, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. What’s it going to be?
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Post by Credo on Aug 27, 2020 11:15:23 GMT -8
vile, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. What’s it going to be? And if you don't bake that cake for him, he'll get the state to sue your business.
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Post by Bick on Aug 27, 2020 12:00:23 GMT -8
The Hodge Twins lay it out pretty well.
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 27, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -8
That statement is only true if.... It's true because trump is the president and he's responsible for what happens on his watch. You have a curious & inaccurate definition of responsibility. You then built a strawman off of that false definition, so your accusations about Republicans are also inaccurate. When police are needed to intervene in a riot, it is the responsibility of localities (City, County & State) to determine what is needed to quell the riot. Those folks are typically not responsible for the riot, but they are responsible for the response. The presidents responsibility is to assist with the National Guard if those localities ask for federal help. In all of these cases, Trump has lived up to his responsibility. If one believed your logic that the president is responsible for what happens on his watch, then you would have to say that President Obama was responsible for the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and all of the children at Sandy Hook. Tell me, were the dead children at Sandy Hook an example of Obama's America?
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 27, 2020 14:38:25 GMT -8
That statement is only true if.... It's true because trump is the president and he's responsible for what happens on his watch. What a specious argument. So, you think that if you were to go and kill one of your butt buddies because he, I don't know, made fun of your girly-man name...that would be Trump's fault because he is president? Got it.
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