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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 4, 2020 2:27:41 GMT -8
As I just posted in another thread (before I saw this one) This was answering a Vile Pagan post. Again, if you pilot your time machine back far enough you run out of time. If you're in a timeless environment the word "always' loses some of its meaning. I think one of the major hurdles for humans to overcome is the limits of our language in discussing things so far removed from our daily experience of reality. My favorite teacher at Servite, the late Robert C. Cotton, used to ridicule people who said that "there are no words to describe" something. "Yes there are...you just don't know them," he would say. But the bottom line is that you can't answer my question, so God, or original building block? ...You have no way to argue which is correct. One is no more able to be scientifically proven than the other. |
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Post by Luca on Aug 4, 2020 5:49:34 GMT -8
Well, that's because the conclusion remains true.............Luca
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Post by SK80 on Aug 4, 2020 6:02:38 GMT -8
I've always looked at it like this when the debate finds its way to the stage..., explain how did "something" come from "nothing". I immediately get blind stares.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 4, 2020 6:22:36 GMT -8
I think one of the major hurdles for humans to overcome is the limits of our language in discussing things so far removed from our daily experience of reality. That's also an excellent explanation of our inability to articulate the proof of a Creator. |
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Post by Bick on Aug 4, 2020 6:24:22 GMT -8
I've thought about this quite often and have debated it with my significant other (whom is a Cathlolic; I was raised Episcopalian) and I often wonder, do we even have the ability to contemplate the moment before the Big Bang? If the big bang created time as well as space, the question of what happened "before" the big bang is invalid. Do you believe all matter suddenly, and spontaneously, appeared in a vacuum? |
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Post by davidsf on Aug 4, 2020 8:26:29 GMT -8
Again, if you pilot your time machine back far enough you run out of time. If you're in a timeless environment the word "always' loses some of its meaning. I think one of the major hurdles for humans to overcome is the limits of our language in discussing things so far removed from our daily experience of reality. My favorite teacher at Servite, the late Robert C. Cotton, used to ridicule people who said that "there are no words to describe" something. "Yes there are...you just don't know them," he would say. But the bottom line is that you can't answer my question, so God, or original building block? ...You have no way to argue which is correct. One is no more able to be scientifically proven than the other. Of course, Vile boy, like so many others, has that very human speed-limiting governor on his mind: He cannot consider eternity as a possibility.q i have difficulty wrapping my mind around time that goes on forever, in both directions... without end... but I can accept the concept. so I offer one of my favorite scientists into this gap. He doesn’t speak so much to the origin of the universe as to the origin of life. His conclusions can still be applied to this overall discussion, though: if you do want more information from him, his name is Dr. Stephen C Meyerthis is a brief treatment of the discussion that first brought him to my attention: |
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