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Post by Bick on Aug 13, 2020 9:30:43 GMT -8
Values and direction is exactly the issue. We get way too caught up in character flaws, and trying to discredit the leaders, instead of discussing the consequences of the various initiatives being proposed. When deciding who is to be the next leader of the free world and the most powerful man on the planet, character flaws (and obvious mental impairments) are arguably as important as policy positions Ordinarily, I'd agree with you. But given the penchant for media driven character assassination, there's essentially nothing BUT that. Policy discussions are way in the back of the bus.
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Aug 13, 2020 9:37:49 GMT -8
So the personal decision comes down to choosing between an asshole and a vegetable (who would soon enough be replaced by a bitch).
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Post by Bick on Aug 13, 2020 9:51:39 GMT -8
LOL...yeah, policy choices like that.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 13, 2020 14:01:20 GMT -8
I see...you're on board with what trump is doing, but you don't like the guy himself... In today's installment we have a nice lady from Michigan who doesn't like what trump has done: What proof do you offer that this woman (and others in the so-called "Republican Voters against Trump") are actually Republican Voters and not Democrat voters posing as Republicans. I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it. It doesn't really matter though. For every Republican who is disillusioned and doesn't intend to vote for Trump, I'm quite sure there are just as many Democrats disillusioned with the loony direction of their party leaders, and do plan to vote for Trump,
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Post by thefrog on Aug 13, 2020 14:08:03 GMT -8
I see...you're on board with what trump is doing, but you don't like the guy himself... In today's installment we have a nice lady from Michigan who doesn't like what trump has done: What proof do you offer that this woman (and others in the so-called "Republican Voters against Trump") are actually Republican Voters and not Democrat voters posing as Republicans. I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it. It doesn't really matter though. For every Republican who is disillusioned and doesn't intend to vote for Trump, I'm quite sure there are just as many Democrats disillusioned with the loony direction of their party leaders, and do plan to vote for Trump, Pure hypocrisy given his disdain for our “twitter politics.”
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 13, 2020 14:12:00 GMT -8
I agree MDDad, and so apparently does Lindsey Graham... Luckily he found that he had misjudged Trump, and became one of his staunchest supporters. And I'm sure he found out what real evil was, after living through the Democrats' disgusting behavior at the Kavanaugh hearings. He's now 100% behind Trump.
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 13, 2020 18:33:32 GMT -8
Perhaps, but you're missing the point...she used to VOTE republican...now she plans to vote for Biden. Head injuries happen, don't hold it against the old broad.
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 13, 2020 19:09:57 GMT -8
Funny thing is, if you watch the campaign ads Biden's ads are a lot more upbeat and positive while all trump has is fear-mongering, lies, and insults. No, actually the funny thing is you attempting to make Biden ads as pure as the driven snow when they are literally propaganda misinformation. Bidens whole campaign is based on lies about Trump and his performance, yet you pretend like it is the truth. Look at Harris's speech when she was introduced as V.P. Among the things she said: - "...Just look where they’ve gotten us, more than 16 million out of work..." - Blaming Trump for the virus when he made the initial steps to limit it from getting to our shores. Once it did make it through in Washington & NY, the Governors were the ones who have chosen to keep businesses shut down despite scientific evidence that shutdowns aren't needed and are counterproductive. The Media & the left (but I repeat myself) applauded those Democratic governors who shut down businesses and vilified those Republican governors who kept businesses open, only now to blame Trump for the consequences of their actions;
- "...millions of kids who cannot go back to school..." - Trump has been harping on getting children back to school for months, as has the CDC and every legitimate scientist in the world. Democrat controlled teachers unions have fought against this, yet they now blame Trump for the consequences of their actions.
- "...more than 165,000 lives that have been cut short..." - A complete misrepresentation of people who died BECAUSE of Covid19 compared to people who died WHILE INFECTED with Covid19. A huge percentage of those deaths were people literally dying, who became infected with Covid19 prior to succumbing to their illness, a death that would have happened at that time with or without Covid19. In addition, many of those deaths were caused by the decisions of Democratic governors & mayors, who sent Covid patients back into nursing homes and wiped out all of the elderly in those facilities, yet they blame Trump for the consequences of their actions.
- "...Ebola. We all remember that pandemic, but you know what happened then? Barack Obama and Joe Biden did their job, only two people in the United States died..." - Ebola was not a pandemic, it was an outbreak. HUGE Difference. It was not an easily transmitted airborne virus, it was transmitted via blood. HUGE difference. Yet Harris lies and tries to convince people that Obama & Biden were on the front lines with their surgical masks on. Her comparison was as ridiculous as stating the fact that that over 20 million US citizens died during Obama's 2 terms as president, and then claiming that Obama did nothing to slow down the yearly increase.
The last 3 plus years have been an expose on how the left has to lie, cheat & steal to win elections. What they don't seem to realize is that if you keep pushing people, you eventually push too hard and end up face down in the street.
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Post by RSM789 on Aug 13, 2020 19:11:34 GMT -8
There seems to be a large number... Define "large number". And there either is or there isn't, there is no "seems".
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Post by thefrog on Aug 13, 2020 19:53:41 GMT -8
I suspect an intern wrote the Ebola comparison for her... that was bizarre
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 14, 2020 2:17:42 GMT -8
I see...you're on board with what trump is doing, but you don't like the guy himself... In today's installment we have a nice lady from Michigan who doesn't like what trump has done: What proof do you offer that this woman (and others in the so-called "Republican Voters against Trump") are actually Republican Voters and not Democrat voters posing as Republicans. I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it. It doesn't really matter though. For every Republican who is disillusioned and doesn't intend to vote for Trump, I'm quite sure there are just as many Democrats disillusioned with the loony direction of their party leaders, and do plan to vote for Trump, Yes, you're supposed to believe these videos as much as you believe the crap you post from Twitter...after all, why would they lie? No doubt there's many videos of Democrats saying how much they love trump...I'm sure you'll post some. I'll be right here when you find one.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 14, 2020 2:20:53 GMT -8
Here's Tommy from West Texas who's a Christian wondering how people can vote for trump....
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 14, 2020 2:23:57 GMT -8
There seems to be a large number... Define "large number". And there either is or there isn't, there is no "seems". I'm just using the same language that you and your guy uses every day....some people say that's the best tactic.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 14, 2020 2:32:04 GMT -8
What proof do you offer that this woman (and others in the so-called "Republican Voters against Trump") are actually Republican Voters and not Democrat voters posing as Republicans. I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it. It doesn't really matter though. For every Republican who is disillusioned and doesn't intend to vote for Trump, I'm quite sure there are just as many Democrats disillusioned with the loony direction of their party leaders, and do plan to vote for Trump, Yes, you're supposed to believe these videos as much as you believe the crap you post from Twitter...after all, why would they lie? No doubt there's many videos of Democrats saying how much they love trump...I'm sure you'll post some. I'll be right here when you find one. Here you go Vile one. Didn't take long, did it. Minnesota flips to red this year. Particularly interesting starting at 1:56. Enjoy.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 14, 2020 2:36:59 GMT -8
What proof do you offer that this woman (and others in the so-called "Republican Voters against Trump") are actually Republican Voters and not Democrat voters posing as Republicans. I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it. It doesn't really matter though. For every Republican who is disillusioned and doesn't intend to vote for Trump, I'm quite sure there are just as many Democrats disillusioned with the loony direction of their party leaders, and do plan to vote for Trump, Pure hypocrisy given his disdain for our “twitter politics.” Hey, at least these people identify themselves and show their faces, and you can hear their own words straight form their own mouths....like this guy:
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