Bick
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Post by Bick on Jan 17, 2023 12:04:32 GMT -8
On a personal note, my son and his wife are both nurses, so they have been vaccinated out the wazoo. They have two little girls, age 3 and 1 1/2. This week all four of them came down with Covid. They are another piece of anecdotal evidence that the vaccines aren't worth a crap, other than making money for those who produce them. Fully jabbed and boosted perfectly healthy uncle (Ken Biermann former coach of Crescenta Valley football) of one of my co workers caught Covid and passed last week.
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Post by billb on Jan 17, 2023 18:11:43 GMT -8
Sorry to hear that Bick. I was at my mom's this morning and she was listening to one of the corporate media news stories. They were talking about how COVID increases the risk of miscarriage's. They recommended mothers get vaccinated. I haven't reviewed that research, but would love to see research comparing vaccine to no-vaccine. I have seen studies involving the vaccine and miscarriage, and it isn't good. Would you rather get a bunch or prions injected in you or get hit by the full virus? Tough choice. Personally, I would take the virus over chopped up spike proteins suspended in a liquid non-particle.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jan 17, 2023 19:40:28 GMT -8
Sorry to hear that Bick. I was at my mom's this morning and she was listening to one of the corporate media news stories. They were talking about how COVID increases the risk of miscarriage's. They recommended mothers get vaccinated. I haven't reviewed that research, but would love to see research comparing vaccine to no-vaccine. I have seen studies involving the vaccine and miscarriage, and it isn't good. Count my daughter-in-law among them. And they were so excited. They even asked for baby stuff for Christmas. Would have been our first grandchild, due in July. Hopefully the next try will be successful.
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Post by billb on Jan 17, 2023 21:31:55 GMT -8
Oh yes, she is in my prayers.
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Post by nictoe on Jan 18, 2023 9:18:34 GMT -8
More and more states and communities are getting the message:
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Jan 18, 2023 10:24:10 GMT -8
Nic... where are you from and how did you find us? You've got a lot of interesting takes.
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Post by nictoe on Jan 18, 2023 10:52:57 GMT -8
Nic... where are you from and how did you find us? You've got a lot of interesting takes. billb can fill you up on that. He's known me for almost two decades.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Jan 18, 2023 19:39:32 GMT -8
Nice to have you
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Post by billb on Jan 19, 2023 0:52:14 GMT -8
Don't believe all of the bad stuff Nictoe says about me. Most of it isn't true.
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Post by billb on Jan 19, 2023 19:18:05 GMT -8
The repetitive applications of vaccine boosters have been brought up in face of continuous emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants with neutralization escape mutations, but their protective efficacy and potential adverse effects remain largely unknown. Here, we compared the humoral and cellular immune responses of an extended course of recombinant receptor binding domain (RBD) vaccine boosters with those from conventional immunization strategy in a Balb/c mice model. .
Multiple vaccine boosters after the conventional vaccination course significantly decreased RBD-specific antibody titers and serum neutralizing efficacy against the Delta and Omicron variants, and profoundly impaired CD4+ and CD8+T cell activation and increased PD-1 and LAG-3 expressions in these T cells. Mechanistically, we confirmed that extended vaccination with RBD boosters overturned the protective immune memories by promoting adaptive immune tolerance.
Our findings demonstrate potential risks with the continuous use of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine boosters, providing immediate implications for the global COVID-19 vaccination enhancement strategies. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/breaking-via-alex-berenson-new-chinese-study-shows-four-covid-jabs-produced-near-complete-collapse-immune-system-mice/
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Post by SK80 on Jan 20, 2023 8:05:02 GMT -8
Nic... where are you from and how did you find us? You've got a lot of interesting takes. billb can fill you up on that. He's known me for almost two decades. and where exactly is bill from...
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Post by Bick on Jan 21, 2023 8:49:43 GMT -8
Bill has been around since the golden years of the OC Register days I think.
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Post by Bick on Jan 21, 2023 8:51:36 GMT -8
The repetitive applications of vaccine boosters have been brought up in face of continuous emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants with neutralization escape mutations, but their protective efficacy and potential adverse effects remain largely unknown. Here, we compared the humoral and cellular immune responses of an extended course of recombinant receptor binding domain (RBD) vaccine boosters with those from conventional immunization strategy in a Balb/c mice model. .
Multiple vaccine boosters after the conventional vaccination course significantly decreased RBD-specific antibody titers and serum neutralizing efficacy against the Delta and Omicron variants, and profoundly impaired CD4+ and CD8+T cell activation and increased PD-1 and LAG-3 expressions in these T cells. Mechanistically, we confirmed that extended vaccination with RBD boosters overturned the protective immune memories by promoting adaptive immune tolerance.
Our findings demonstrate potential risks with the continuous use of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine boosters, providing immediate implications for the global COVID-19 vaccination enhancement strategies.
This sounds an awful lot like what Geert Vanden Bossche was saying would happen back in May 2020. It's why I pumped the brakes on it. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/breaking-via-alex-berenson-new-chinese-study-shows-four-covid-jabs-produced-near-complete-collapse-immune-system-mice/
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Post by nictoe on Jan 21, 2023 12:38:37 GMT -8
Years and decades from now, they'll be celebrating the great and glorious achievements of the covid vaccines just like they're now doing with the cancer and AIDS treatments, even though for a fact......they never healed or cured a damn thing.
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Post by MDDad on Jan 21, 2023 13:01:35 GMT -8
Years and decades from now, they'll be celebrating the great and glorious achievements of the covid vaccines just like they're now doing with the cancer and AIDS treatments, even though for a fact......they never healed or cured a damn thing.
Unfortunately, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of medications that don't heal or cure a damn thing -- everything from pain medications, to fever reducers, to anti-psychotic drugs, to insulin, and countless others. That doesn't make them worthless, it just makes them not vaccines. Perhaps your opposition is partly due to the use of the word "vaccine", because it implies a preventative or curative effect. Would you be happier if the vaccines were called Covid medications? Yes, the Covid "vaccines" were rushed to market long before they were properly vetted, partly because the public had been whipped into a panic by Anthony Fauci, the WHO, the CDC and the American media, and partly because Donald Trump wanted to look like a savior before he left office. Yes, it's unconscionable that those same vaccines continue to be pushed like some kind of magic elixir by those same health "authorities", the media, the Joe Biden administration, and every leftist Karen on the planet. And yes, they have many undesirable side effects, much like many if not most medications. But that doesn't mean they don't have value when used properly and perhaps shouldn't be summarily dismissed as a harmful con.
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