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Post by ProfessorFate on Dec 29, 2020 3:09:36 GMT -8
This is both depressing and awakening. Please watch this video, and be a part of the sleeping giant that it awakens. And pray. God has the power to flip this our way, (even at this late stage), if it be His Will to do so.  |
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 29, 2020 4:13:09 GMT -8
Yes, pray for intellect.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Dec 29, 2020 7:49:36 GMT -8
Thanks Professor.
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Post by Luca on Dec 29, 2020 11:26:46 GMT -8
I thought you were going to give credit to one of my favorite Churchill quotes:
“This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense.".......
And lacking that, then maybe Springsteen:
"...we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Like soldiers in the winter's night with a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender."
I don't have the time right now, Professor, but I will watch the video when I get the chance and see if it carries on in the rhetorical tradition....................Luca
P.S. I just took a second look. 18 minutes? I don't want to sound too shallow, but are there any Cliff Notes? Some of us around here are still working yeoman hours.
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 29, 2020 13:00:20 GMT -8
I thought you were going to give credit to one of my favorite Churchill quotes: “This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense.".......An excellent suggestion. When are these people peddling the "stolen election" nonsense going to give in to good sense? |
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Post by Luca on Dec 29, 2020 13:12:08 GMT -8
I don't know. I haven't looked into it very closely but I'm dubious that the election was not fairly decided. I don't doubt there were a lot of illegal ballots - there probably always are - but I doubt they decided the election. This always seems to be the case with close elections. You likely recall the so-called "stolen elections" of George W Bush in 2000 and 2004.
Win some, lose some.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Dec 29, 2020 21:07:57 GMT -8
I thought you were going to give credit to one of my favorite Churchill quotes: “This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense.".......And lacking that, then maybe Springsteen: "...we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Like soldiers in the winter's night with a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender."I don't have the time right now, Professor, but I will watch the video when I get the chance and see if it carries on in the rhetorical tradition....................Luca P.S. I just took a second look. 18 minutes? I don't want to sound too shallow, but are there any Cliff Notes? Some of us around here are still working yeoman hours. 1. The quote is from the Tim Allen comedy "Galaxy Quest." ( I don't know if the writers were giving a nod to Churchill, or not). 2. Do you have any Idea how long it used to take us Luca fans, to read one of your recaps of SMCHS or J Serra football games?  |
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Post by ProfessorFate on Dec 29, 2020 21:24:37 GMT -8
I don't know. I haven't looked into it very closely but I'm dubious that the election was not fairly decided. I don't doubt there were a lot of illegal ballots - there probably always are - but I doubt they decided the election. This always seems to be the case with close elections. You likely recall the so-called "stolen elections" of George W Bush in 2000 and 2004. Win some, lose some. I have absolutely no doubt that this election was stolen. There were too many instances of poll watchers being denied access, despite obtaining a court order to let them in (PA), kicked out of counting centers en masse, after which the windows were poster boarded up (MI), pulling out suitcases of ballots from under a table and counting them after telling everyone (except the four crooks in charge) to go home (because they were supposedly done counting for the day in GA), and then conveniently losing all records of the chain of possession for those suitcases of ballots, Pennsylvania Department of State's own figures show that 220,000 more ballots were cast than the number of voters who voted (Biden's supposed margin of victory was 88,000). Etc., etc., etc. |
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 30, 2020 5:04:52 GMT -8
I don't know. I haven't looked into it very closely but I'm dubious that the election was not fairly decided. I don't doubt there were a lot of illegal ballots - there probably always are - but I doubt they decided the election. This always seems to be the case with close elections. You likely recall the so-called "stolen elections" of George W Bush in 2000 and 2004. Win some, lose some. I have absolutely no doubt that this election was stolen. That's because you believe the nonsense you read on Twitter and think that the proof that voter fraud was committed will be found on YouTube. In short, your conclusions are erroneous. None of the claims you made in your post are valid. |
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 30, 2020 5:07:24 GMT -8
I don't know. I haven't looked into it very closely but I'm dubious that the election was not fairly decided. I don't doubt there were a lot of illegal ballots - there probably always are - but I doubt they decided the election. This always seems to be the case with close elections. You likely recall the so-called "stolen elections" of George W Bush in 2000 and 2004. Win some, lose some. I agree that the election was fairly decided. I don't think this election was particularly close, nor do I recall any talk of Bush stealing an election. Perhaps you could refresh my memory? |
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Post by Luca on Dec 30, 2020 8:40:27 GMT -8
All you need to do is google “2000 stolen presidential election” and “2004 stolen presidential election.” There’s plenty of discussion of both. I remember reading about it for years afterwards. I’m surprised you don’t. I’d give you some links myself but I’m on my iPad and don’t know how to do it..............Luca
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 30, 2020 13:30:12 GMT -8
All you need to do is google “2000 stolen presidential election” and “2004 stolen presidential election.” There’s plenty of discussion of both. No, really there isn't a lot...some, but nothing like the caterwauling we see here and the Twitter-sphere. |
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