billb
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Post by billb on Aug 11, 2021 18:50:07 GMT -8
Wikipedia changed their pages after he warned against the vaccine. He is no longer the inventor of the mRNA vaccine, but don't forget the way-back machine shows how they changed their articles and said some guy at a later date invented mRNA. It is a concerted effort by people who have something to gain in this.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 12, 2021 6:47:21 GMT -8
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Aug 12, 2021 15:07:32 GMT -8
haunting.....
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Aug 12, 2021 15:16:15 GMT -8
I don't think that's haunting at all. Every child born in America is "jabbed against their will" when they are immunized as infants. That's what parents are supposed to do -- make rational decisions in the best interests of their minor children that those children don't have the legal capacity to make on their own.
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Post by thefrog on Aug 12, 2021 15:37:47 GMT -8
People acting like vaccine passports are unprecedented seem to forget entering grade school…
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 12, 2021 16:30:08 GMT -8
People acting like vaccine passports are unprecedented seem to forget entering grade school… They are unprecedented for EUA vaccines. I guess the decision comes down to who you trust... This guy below, or Fauci / Biden.
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thefrog
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Post by thefrog on Aug 12, 2021 16:41:00 GMT -8
I'm confused.
Assuming ADE is a thing, then why aren't we seeing major bumps in hospitalizations and deaths amongst the vaccinated?
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Post by davidsf on Aug 12, 2021 17:20:02 GMT -8
So they can decide to get an abortion without involving a parent, but cannot decide about a vaccine?
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 12, 2021 17:37:11 GMT -8
I'm confused. Assuming ADE is a thing, then why aren't we seeing major bumps in hospitalizations and deaths amongst the vaccinated? I don't think you would see major bumps in severe cases, vaxxed or not. Reason being, the mutated virus is weaker. While completely anecdotal, 4 of the 5 cases here were from vaxxed employees. I know of 3 unvaxxed who were in close contact with them, without masks, and no symptoms whatsoever. I think this is consistent with what Dr Malone is saying regarding ADE. On the surface, I guess it's no big deal if you're dealing with a weaker Delta strain. The rub comes when you are faced with a very potent virus, like the original strain, and your body has been impacted by ADE. I don't know if any of this is true, but I do think it's important to hit the brakes until we get better data. This rush for mass Vax is a huge bust IMNSHO.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 12, 2021 17:38:34 GMT -8
So they can decide to get an abortion without involving a parent, but cannot decide about a vaccine? Let THAT sink in for a while.
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thefrog
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Post by thefrog on Aug 12, 2021 17:56:53 GMT -8
I don't hold Dr. Malone with such high regard like some of you, but that's just me.
For starters, I'm not sure how you can claim to be the sole inventor of mRNA vaccines when there are clearly many others involved in their development. There were many involved including Dr. Katalin Karikó whom he seems to have a pretty blatant and open vendetta with.
IMO, it sounds like Malone is mad that he never profited off any patents related to this technology...
Hell, I'm just not a believer in far-reaching coverups/conspiracies...
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Post by MDDad on Aug 12, 2021 18:02:59 GMT -8
People acting like vaccine passports are unprecedented seem to forget entering grade school… I agree, but there are two differences. Those grade school vaccines were fully FDA-approved, while the Covid vaccines are not. And you only had to show those grade school vax records one time, when enrolling your child for his first day of school, not every time they wanted to enter a public building.
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billb
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Post by billb on Aug 12, 2021 18:35:31 GMT -8
People acting like vaccine passports are unprecedented seem to forget entering grade school… Kids have not been required to get vaccinated for influenza before they go to school.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 12, 2021 18:50:53 GMT -8
I don't hold Dr. Malone with such high regard like some of you, but that's just me. For starters, I'm not sure how you can claim to be the sole inventor of mRNA vaccines when there are clearly many others involved in their development. There were many involved including Dr. Katalin Karikó whom he seems to have a pretty blatant and open vendetta with. IMO, it sounds like Malone is mad that he never profited off any patents related to this technology... Hell, I'm just not a believer in far-reaching coverups/conspiracies... Is there anything specific he's saying you disagree with?
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billb
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Post by billb on Aug 12, 2021 18:56:33 GMT -8
I think this is consistent with what Dr Malone is saying regarding ADE. It could be ADE. I have heard other theories too, which are worse. ADE is a real phenomena and responsible for the shutdown of other vaccines in the past. Pfizer and Moderna are completely new types of vaccines, not used on humans before. Despite the study out of Massachusetts the administration is doubling down and their program. In my family, those who were vaccinated go really sick over the past month while those not vaccinated didn't get sick. It could be totally unrelated to the vaccine. But maybe not.
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