MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Jun 17, 2021 6:10:46 GMT -8
Fear is horrible. Now all we have to work on is the fear. My dad was orphaned at five when both of his parents died during World War I. He had to support himself by working for farmers tending their stock. He told me that sheep had a mind of their own and were hard to control, but when they were frightened they were much easier to control and herd in the direction you wanted them to go. Think about that for a minute. Isn't that exactly what the left has done to our citizenry with this virus terror campaign?
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Post by thefrog on Jun 17, 2021 6:49:39 GMT -8
“Nothing to fear, but fear itself”
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Jun 17, 2021 10:12:40 GMT -8
I identify as vaccinated.
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billb
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Post by billb on Jun 17, 2021 10:19:28 GMT -8
Fear is horrible. Now all we have to work on is the fear. My dad was orphaned at five when both of his parents died during World War I. He had to support himself by working for farmers tending their stock. He told me that sheep had a mind of their own and were hard to control, but when they were frightened they were much easier to control and herd in the direction you wanted them to go. Think about that for a minute. Isn't that exactly what the left has done to our citizenry with this virus terror campaign? We should start handing out masks that say "sheep" on them. Thanks for the story and the lesson, MD Dad.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Jun 17, 2021 10:21:45 GMT -8
So if you're 98 years old and die with COVID it's a COVID death. If you're 98 years old and die three weeks after you get the vaccine you died of old age.
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Post by SK80 on Jun 17, 2021 17:15:19 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Jun 19, 2021 18:28:32 GMT -8
From Moderna:
Yes, they are currently developing mRNA-based vaccines.... But NONE have ever been approved for humans. NONE.
Even Moderna says the vaccine "May" prevent COVID-19. "may"? Who knows? Vegas baby.... I guess we will see in a couple years.
Also, note that Moderna doesn't know how long the immunity will last (assuming it gives immunity, they say it "may") I heard someone ask how long the natural immunity lasts. DARPA found that natural immunity for the Spanish Flu lasted 100 years (according to CBS 60 Minutes).
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Post by billb on Jun 19, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -8
But how can this be? No knows for sure, but I heard one virologist speculate that these higher death rates among the vaccinated could be because their immune system created too many antibodies for the original spike protein. BTW, that spike protein in the virus causes all of the same problems as the vaccine. The virus is not innocuous. A variant comes along and the vaccinated body doesn't have the capabilities to produce this new antibody. According to this recent UK government study: Higher Death Rate among the vaccinatedTwenty-six people died among 4,087 who were fully vaccinated 14 days or more before testing positive for the Delta COVID variant. This equates to a death rate of 0.00636 percent, which is 6.6 times higher than the rate of 0.000957 deaths – or 34 deaths among 35,521 positive Delta cases among the unvaccinated, according to data published in a June 18 report titled “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England, Technical briefing 16.” Higher hospitalization among vaccinated Since hospitalizations are of concern, fully vaccinated people are being hospitalized in the UK at a higher rate than unvaccinated people. According to most recent technical briefing report, public health data show that 2.0 percent of vaccinated individuals (84 of 4,087) who tested positive for the Delta variant were admitted to hospital (including those tested upon entering the hospital for any other reason) compared with 1.48 percent of unvaccinated individuals (527 of 35,521).
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Post by billb on Jun 20, 2021 17:20:29 GMT -8
With no evidence to back her up, Walensky lies. The propaganda is amazing.
The UK government study indicates the vaccinated are six times more likely to die from the Delta variant and more likely to be hospitalized.
We will have to see how this plays out, but they have no evidence to back them up.
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Post by SK80 on Jun 20, 2021 19:44:08 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Jun 30, 2021 0:12:32 GMT -8
No kidding. The major variants will be the vaccine resistant variants.
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Post by billb on Jul 6, 2021 22:39:16 GMT -8
I am flabbergasted at what is going on.
A guy named Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine back in the 80s, had his name removed by Wikipedia after he said young people shouldn't get the vaccine. So Wikipedia said someone else "invented" the technology years later (the wayback machine confirmed that) . His account was removed from LinkedIn, but was reinstated with apologies.
And then an ex-Chief Scientist at Pfizer, cautioned against young people taking the vaccines. He worked for Pfizer on mRNA vaccines. They took the videos down containing his video statements.
We have had over 6K vaccine deaths reported to the government. Now maybe over 7K, and people inside say the numbers are much higher. Plus, there are tons of stories were doctors and hospitals aren't reporting deaths to the government database.
And now there are questions being raised about how deadly the virus was. We know over 550K died - and they tested positive. What does that mean? How many had the seasonal flu and developed pneumonia and died? If those numbers are included in the 550K deaths, the COVID deaths are much lower, considering the NY Times reported that 9 of 10 PCR tests gave false positives. Depending on the year, upwards of 200K in the US die from the seasonal flu / pneumonia.
But today Biden said we need to go door to door to get everyone vaccinated.
How many conspiracy theories turned out to be true in this fiasco. Remember the lab-leak theory was discredited, even in the Lancet and Nature Journals. Both statements / studies were pulled and discredited. Why cover up the lab leak theory? Now it is likely?? And then the NIH funding conspiracy, which was confirmed to be true in Senate hearings and grant documents.
One side is really wrong here. It is either the side that thinks everyone should take the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) "vaccine", or the people who say we shouldn't require it for school and work.
And then I heard a doctor today say pregnant women need to get vaccinated to protect their unborn child. Are the conspiracy theorist who say that it the wrong thing to do, right about that too?
On July 15th the UC system will decide if vaccinations are mandatory. They have already suggested that they will make it that way. I think it is a big mistake, considering early on that Fauci said that if this many people died from the virus it would only be considered a bad flu season(s). If it was airborne Ebola, they wouldn't have to ask us to get vaccinated.
If some old fart wants to get vaccinated, go ahead, but don't require it for students or workplaces.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 7, 2021 0:42:35 GMT -8
I am flabbergasted at what is going on. But today Biden said we need to go door to door to get everyone vaccinated.
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Post by Bick on Jul 7, 2021 5:16:00 GMT -8
When you consider 94% of the people that were reported as covid deaths had serious underlying conditions, and according to this doctor in the link below, the notion of asymptomatic spread of covid was a flat out lie, reasoned support for mass vaccination has a house of cards foundation to begin with. Coupled with the growing evidence of serious / deadly adverse reactions, advocating mass vaccinations seems beyond reckless. trialsitenews.com/asymptomatic-covid-spread-used-to-shut-down-the-economy-and-close-schools-was-false/
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Post by mrright on Jul 7, 2021 5:27:37 GMT -8
all done to stop Trump
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