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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 4:46:20 GMT -8
Some peaceful, covid related protesting over in Cuba happening right now. Those chants of "Libertad" mean they want more free vaccines.
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Post by thefrog on Jul 12, 2021 5:35:17 GMT -8
I'm not sure. I want to believe it's a revolution, but it doesn't appear "explosive" enough.
I have a few Cuban friends (who legitimately fled Cuba) who are hyping this up on Facebook.
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Post by mrright on Jul 12, 2021 5:35:36 GMT -8
being spun as covid. they want freedom
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 5:46:05 GMT -8
I'm not sure. I want to believe it's a revolution, but it doesn't appear "explosive" enough. I have a few Cuban friends (who legitimately fled Cuba) who are hyping this up on Facebook. From what I've read, the gov't shut down the internet there. OUR gov't response about it being about Covid concerns is particularly interesting. I think the Cuba gov't will shut this down pretty quickly unless it really is a full blown revolution.
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Post by davidsf on Jul 12, 2021 6:00:49 GMT -8
From what I've read, the gov't shut down the internet there. OUR gov't response about it being about Covid concerns is particularly interesting. I think the Cuba gov't will shut this down pretty quickly unless it really is a full blown revolution. That banner translates to "This is how they stopped members of the @27ncuba when they organised a peaceful demonstration in front of the ICRT..." So, you're right, it will be stopped.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 12, 2021 6:05:19 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 6:13:27 GMT -8
From what I've read, the gov't shut down the internet there. OUR gov't response about it being about Covid concerns is particularly interesting. I think the Cuba gov't will shut this down pretty quickly unless it really is a full blown revolution. That banner translates to "This is how they stopped members of the @27ncuba when they organised a peaceful demonstration in front of the ICRT..." So, you're right, it will be stopped. The protests are REALLY about US imperialism according to the anti-fascist Worker's Party of Turkey. It seems we're pushing toward an inflection point that will dissolve the facade of liberalism/socialism here in the US, into full blown communism. Watch how this gets dealt with by "the squad", Bernie Sanders and other democrats.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 12, 2021 6:18:34 GMT -8
The protests are REALLY about US imperialism according to the anti-fascist Worker's Party of Turkey. I've been hearing these American imperialism (or colonialism) complaints since I was in junior high school. If the United States is imperialistic, where is the evidence of its empire? What colonies have we added in the last 80 years? If there are none, we're pretty darn bad at being imperialists.
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 6:43:04 GMT -8
The argument could be made that the allies we support financially would be covert colonies.
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Post by davidsf on Jul 12, 2021 6:56:11 GMT -8
Something I notice in the difference between the attire of the men in the Turkey Workers photo (proclaiming the victory of the Cuban people) and the attire of the Cubans marching for liberty in this one:
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Post by MDDad on Jul 12, 2021 8:06:30 GMT -8
The argument could be made that the allies we support financially would be covert colonies. That would be a weak argument. A colony is a dependecy over which one has military and political control, not an independent nation to which one supplies financial aid.
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 8:24:58 GMT -8
Something I notice in the difference between the attire of the men in the Turkey Workers photo (proclaiming the victory of the Cuban people) and the attire of the Cubans marching for liberty in this one: I haven't seen a democrat in support of their protests about freedom. Doesn't mean there aren't any - just haven't seen any.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 12, 2021 8:35:56 GMT -8
I imagine many leftists feel the only "freedom" from communist utopia is a return to white supremacist colonialism.
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 8:47:40 GMT -8
The argument could be made that the allies we support financially would be covert colonies. That would be a weak argument. A colony is a dependecy over which one has military and political control, not an independent nation to which one supplies financial aid. While all the allies are sovereign nations, my intuition tells me the degree of influence the US exerts on some them has the same effect as control.
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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 8:59:15 GMT -8
Well...I guess the pandemic HAS to be part of the statement, right?
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