davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Nov 14, 2019 15:27:20 GMT -8
Still waiting for anyone to show evidence that an unborn child, from conception, is not both LivingAndHumanIm sure I’ll be disappointed, because...well, you can’t.but I also can’t let it go.anyone? Anyone? Vilebueller?🤷🏻♂️Yeah, that’s the nothing I thought you’d say.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Nov 14, 2019 15:47:14 GMT -8
Davidsf,
Did you phrase that correctly? It looks like the opposite of what I thought you were trying to say. Didn't you mean "is NOT both living and human?'
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Post by davidsf on Nov 14, 2019 16:16:40 GMT -8
Davidsf, Did you phrase that correctly? It looks like the opposite of what I thought you were trying to say. Didn't you mean "is NOT both living and human?' The original post and my repeat with the response were both for our guest... i posed the fact that what he calls a fetus or zygote is, scientifically known to be a human life (human, and living)... my original asked anyone to prove otherwise... he could not and drifted off away from the question... which is what I thought he would do.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Nov 14, 2019 16:46:47 GMT -8
Davidsf, Did you phrase that correctly? It looks like the opposite of what I thought you were trying to say. Didn't you mean "is NOT both living and human?' The original post and my repeat with the response were both for our guest... i posed the fact that what he calls a fetus or zygote is, scientifically known to be a human life (human, and living)... my original asked anyone to prove otherwise... he could not and drifted off away from the question... which is what I thought he would do. Ahh. Gotcha.
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Post by RSM789 on Nov 14, 2019 19:07:24 GMT -8
Geez, talk about a hissy fit. I'm beginning to understand why JQP decided you guys were a bunch of snowflakes. JQP molests collies.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 15, 2019 3:30:15 GMT -8
You held up the Catholic Church as some sort of example of good morals. I pointed out that perhaps they should not be considered so moral. You fled the discussion. If you're asking me to take it easy on the Catholic Church the answer is no. If you want me to stop mentioning all those little boys, stop holding the church up as some sort of moral example. The problem is that the Catholic priests don't practice what they preach, not that I mention it.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 15, 2019 6:15:09 GMT -8
You held up the Catholic Church as some sort of example of good morals. I pointed out that perhaps they should not be considered so moral. You fled the discussion. If you're asking me to take it easy on the Catholic Church the answer is no. If you want me to stop mentioning all those little boys, stop holding the church up as some sort of moral example. The problem is that the Catholic priests don't practice what they preach, not that I mention it. Gee, can you possibly be more of a pompous, self-righteous windbag? (no, that is not a challenge) jerk back in topic, and getting back to my question: WHICH, I assume, you won’t answer because you can’t... Still waiting for anyone to show evidence that an unborn child, from conception, is not both Living And Human I’m sure I’ll be disappointed, because...well, you can’t. what d’ya say, Vilebueller?
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Post by Credo on Nov 25, 2019 16:26:48 GMT -8
Great piece from the parody site Babylon Bee.
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Post by captaintrips on Nov 25, 2019 18:45:42 GMT -8
You held up the Catholic Church as some sort of example of good morals. I pointed out that perhaps they should not be considered so moral. You fled the discussion. If you're asking me to take it easy on the Catholic Church the answer is no. If you want me to stop mentioning all those little boys, stop holding the church up as some sort of moral example. The problem is that the Catholic priests don't practice what they preach, not that I mention it. Gee, can you possibly be more of a pompous, self-righteous windbag? (no, that is not a challenge) jerk back in topic, and getting back to my question: WHICH, I assume, you won’t answer because you can’t... Still waiting for anyone to show evidence that an unborn child, from conception, is not both Living And Human I’m sure I’ll be disappointed, because...well, you can’t. what d’ya say, Vilebueller? . . looks around.. no no pagans here ! An unborn human, is uniquely human from the moment of conception. That person is alive - hence " living." That person is human, it isn't a moth, a rabbit, a whale or a hamster.. or anything else. It is a unique human being. A LIVING, unique human being. Reference the basics of the Science of Biology
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Post by Credo on Nov 25, 2019 19:47:35 GMT -8
You held up the Catholic Church as some sort of example of good morals. I pointed out that perhaps they should not be considered so moral. You fled the discussion. If you're asking me to take it easy on the Catholic Church the answer is no. If you want me to stop mentioning all those little boys, stop holding the church up as some sort of moral example. The problem is that the Catholic priests don't practice what they preach, not that I mention it. Gee, can you possibly be more of a pompous, self-righteous windbag? (no, that is not a challenge) jerk back in topic, and getting back to my question: WHICH, I assume, you won’t answer because you can’t... Still waiting for anyone to show evidence that an unborn child, from conception, is not both Living And Human I’m sure I’ll be disappointed, because...well, you can’t. what d’ya say, Vilebueller? When one cannot refute an argument, accusing the source of the argument of hypocrisy--in a completely unrelated issue--is an admission that the argument cannot be refuted. There is not a single human being or institution that can perfectly "practice what it preaches," so such an attempt to undercut an argument is meaningless. The question about any argument should always be, "is it true?" Everything else is a distraction. Deliberately destroying unborn human life because that life is "unwanted" is morally wrong and a monstrous crime against that living being. Period.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 29, 2019 7:48:33 GMT -8
This is what happens when you let the zealots make the laws... Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' chargesA bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.
This is the second time practising obstetricians and gynecologists have tried to tell the Ohio legislators that the idea is currently medically impossible.
The move comes amid a wave of increasingly severe anti-abortion bills introduced across much of the country as conservative Republican politicians seek to ban abortion and force a legal showdown on abortion with the supreme court.www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/29/ohio-extreme-abortion-bill-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancyWhat a bunch of idiots.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 29, 2019 7:52:20 GMT -8
Why would you make such a stupid assumption?
I see no reason to agree with the obvious, and I'm perfectly happy if you wait forever for a response that won't be coming.
If you wish to discuss something try making a point worth debating. Yes, a living human fetus is both living and human...congrats on making such a profound observation.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 29, 2019 8:01:16 GMT -8
A perfectly valid opinion, and indeed one I can share with some reservation. I personally do not think I would have an abortion if I were a pregnant female unless the circumstances were dire. However, I'm not as comfortable as you in forcing my opinion on others and our society as a whole feels the same way. That's why we have the laws we do regarding abortion and not the laws you would wish upon us all. Rather ironic when you consider your alleged libertarian leanings and my rumored leftist desire to control everything you do.
Like I wrote in another post, it's not that conservatives and liberals disagree on how much regulation there should be, it's that we disagree on what should be regulated and what should be left alone.
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Post by Credo on Dec 2, 2019 22:52:14 GMT -8
Thank God the mother of J.K. Dobbins chose life--he barely avoided the silent holocaust of abortion.
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Post by vilepagan on Dec 3, 2019 4:19:43 GMT -8
Thankfully, she had a choice.
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