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Post by vilepagan on Sept 7, 2021 10:08:41 GMT -8
Tragic that snowflake cannot research openly and without prejudice (or rancor). The latin noun, " fetus" makes no distinction between pre-born and born, or between [something else] and child. It is used to denote "the young while in the womb or egg" AND was sometimes used figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of "offspring, brood." The word did not become a legal construct used to separate a living human being from its rights until Roe v. Wade. I don't really care what the Romans thought the word meant or how they used it...only how it is used today. em·bry·o /ˈembrēˌō/ noun 1. an unborn or unhatched offspring in the process of development, in particular a human offspring during the period from approximately the second to the eighth week after fertilization (after which it is usually termed a fetus). fetus [ fee-tuhs ] noun, plural fe·tus·es. Embryology. (used chiefly of viviparous mammals) the young of an animal in the womb or egg, especially in the later stages of development when the body structures are in the recognizable form of its kind, in humans after the end of the second month of gestation. See, no mention of children or the post-born. Get a grip. |
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 7, 2021 12:35:31 GMT -8
On another note: Mexico Supreme Court rules criminalizing abortion is unconstitutional
Mexico's Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that penalizing abortion is unconstitutional, a major victory for advocates of women's health and human rights in the majority Roman Catholic nation. "This is a historic step for the rights of women," said Supreme Court Justice Luis Maria Aguilar. The unanimous vote by Mexico's top court comes just as north of the border, some US states have taken steps to restrict abortion access, particularly Texas, which enacted the strictest anti-abortion law in the country after the U.S. Supreme Court declined to intervene.
www.cnn.com/2021/09/07/americas/mexico-criminalizing-abortion-unconstitutional-intl-latam/index.html
Why am I embarrassed for Texas?
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Post by ProfessorFate on Sept 13, 2021 19:41:56 GMT -8
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Post by MDDad on Sept 13, 2021 21:26:25 GMT -8
Also, if it's not a human being, why are we told the decision to abort is so gutwrenching for a woman?
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 14, 2021 2:32:57 GMT -8
If it's not a human being why are we discussing it in a thread about aborting humans?
It's human. Anyone here think differently?
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Post by Bick on Oct 1, 2021 6:30:35 GMT -8
It's really just a love fest.
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Post by davidsf on Oct 1, 2021 8:44:06 GMT -8
“Abortion is a blessing, abortion is an act of love, abortion is freedom.”
Not to the child you kill
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Post by billb on Oct 1, 2021 10:50:20 GMT -8
Oh wow, the things people say.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 2, 2021 4:15:20 GMT -8
Oh wow, the things people say. Especially when you quote just the middle part of a complete sentence...it's truly amazing the stupidity you can make come out of people's mouths when you manipulate what they actually said. |
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Post by Bick on Jun 26, 2022 10:30:19 GMT -8
Might be time for us to re-hash what we think is a reasonable abortion law.
Here's my take:
1. 1st trimester for any reason
2. Medical only thereafter for ectopic / unviable / or danger to mother's health
As part of this, increase incentives for adoption, but with limits to those who might want to make a "business" of making babies.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 26, 2022 10:45:08 GMT -8
Bick, no matter how I say this it will sound crass, but have you ever seen the results of a late first trimester abortion. If so, you might not support your #1 reason above, because they are nothing less than little kids cut into pieces to be more easily extracted.
And that brings to mind a discussion I had yesterday. We have all heard from pro-choice advocates that women do not have abortions frivolously, but rather that it is an agonizing and heartbreaking decision for most women to make. The question is why? If a fetus about to be aborted is just "a clump of cells", deciding to do so should be no more agonizing or heartbreaking than cutting one's hair or fingernails. Why the agony, unless the mother really knows it's a baby?
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Post by billb on Jun 26, 2022 11:02:20 GMT -8
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Post by MDDad on Jun 26, 2022 11:07:03 GMT -8
How can Norma McCorvey (i.e. Jane Roe) file a motion on Tuesday when she died five years ago? It also should be noted that she did not have the abortion that was the subject of that famous case. Rather, she had the child and gave it up for adoption.
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Post by billb on Jun 26, 2022 11:07:59 GMT -8
I think society has the wrong mindset. The family is important. Marriage between a man and woman is a good thing. Children are good. Teach Christian values. It sounds like a Pollyanna world but what is the alternative? A woke CRT one?
States need to decide, especially if they outlaw abortion. What will the penalty be for a woman or doctor? On a pressuring husband or parents? The electric chair OR five months in prison?
We have a systemic problem that creates the liberal mindset. The mindset that thinks abortions are OK. We need to change the schools starting with the school boards. Teach kids at a young age what is important. family. country. honor. God. Not in that order.
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Post by billb on Jun 26, 2022 11:09:15 GMT -8
How can Norma McCorvey (i.e. Jane Roe) file a motion on Tuesday when she died five years ago? It also should be noted that she did not have the abortion that was the subject of that famous case. Rather, she had the child and gave it up for adoption. The article was from 2003. The point I was making is that a woman might want to have an abortion at a young age, but looking back they will regret it. |
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