SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 2, 2021 9:15:30 GMT -8
No he really wasn't. He had a degenerative knee condition since GA that finally impacted his game. He was what took the Rams to the bowl. Defenses had to single up the WRs in order to keep him somewhat bottled up, yet he still had a couple monster years. What took the Rams to the bowl was winning the NFC TITLE game in which Gurley contributed 4 carries for 10 yards @ a 2.5 yards per carry. That did not actually carry the team to "The Bowl". Oh, add the 1 reception for a whopping 3 yards. Ya'll need to stop trying to rewrite history!  |
|
MDDad
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 6,814
|
Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2021 9:17:00 GMT -8
...but it was something about his mindset that always bothered me. It's ironic that anyone who even marginally supports Jared Goff would use that as a negative towards another player. To address Luca's original questions: Besides the obvious physical skills needed to be an excellent pro quarterback, I've always thought that the one intangible they also need is confidence. If you look at the great QB's in history, they all had that look that said, "Give me the ball with two minutes left and down by six and I guarantee we will win this game." They have confidence not only in their skills, but in their ability to make the necessary plays when they are most required. You can see it in their eyes, and they inspire the same level of confidence and belief in their teammates. Tom Brady has that look. So does Aaron Rodgers. John Elway and Joe Montana had it. Russell Wilson used to, but he's lost it. Jared Goff has never had it. Goff has lost any confidence he ever had, and he exudes that loss. When you see him on the sidelines, or between plays, he looks confused and timid. He looks like he wants to be the last guy on the field when the game is on the line, and there is nothing in his body language to fire up his offense. His teammates can't help but see that, and it translates into destroying their own confidence as well. He may well turn out to be a good pro quarterback, but I don't think it was ever going to happen in L.A. playing for the Rams and Sean McVay. And his insistence that he's happy to be in Detroit is just political correctspeak. It's almost unbelievable that the Lions have won only one playoff game in the last 63 years, and they aren't a destination that any NFL player is happy to reach. |
|
MDDad
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 6,814
|
Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2021 9:33:00 GMT -8
Give me under talented guys like Burkhead, Edelman and Brady, they are winners. OK, you take Burkhead in his prime, and I'll take Gurley in his prime, and let's see who wins more often. Look, you're cherry-picking stats from that 2018 season to support your antagonism towards Gurley. That's not fair. That season, Gurley ran for 1,251 yards and 17 TD's. He was named first team All-Pro and was picked for the Pro Bowl (Burkhead wasn't). And Gurley did all that on one leg. And what did Goff do in those last two playoff games? In the NFC title game, he threw for one TD, threw one pick, got sacked once and fumbled once. In the Super Bowl he absolutely sucked, with no TD's, one pick, four sacks and a 57 QB rating. He sucked partly because Gurley was shot, but he also sucked partly because he just sucks. But maybe this donkey will win a Super Bowl with the Lions. |
|
SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 2, 2021 13:58:37 GMT -8
Give me under talented guys like Burkhead, Edelman and Brady, they are winners. Look, you're cherry-picking stats from that 2018 season to support your antagonism towards Gurley. That's not fair. That season, Gurley ran for 1,251 yards and 17 TD's. He was named first team All-Pro and was picked for the Pro Bowl (Burkhead wasn't). And Gurley did all that on one leg. And what did Goff do in those last two playoff games? In the NFC title game, he threw for one TD, threw one pick, got sacked once and fumbled once. In the Super Bowl he absolutely sucked, with no TD's, one pick, four sacks and a 57 QB rating. He sucked partly because Gurley was shot, but he also sucked partly because he just sucks. But maybe this donkey will win a Super Bowl with the Lions. Any day, assuming we build an entire team, you take Gurleys salary and results and I'll take Burkheads! Stay within the cap alright! TODD GURLEY in (just) 6 seasons: Career Earnings: $51,503,202Career APY: $8,583,867 Potential Earnings: $43,953,202 Total Guarantees: $41,273,180 Largest Cash Payment: $21,950,000 (2018) <~~~~~ SUPER BOWL YEAR!!!!!  Largest Cap Number: $9,200,000 (2019) REX BURKHEAD in 8 seasons: Career Earnings: $13,918,450Career APY: $1,739,806 Potential Earnings: $13,918,450 Total Guarantees: $7,252,200 Largest Cash Payment: $4,250,000 (2018) Largest Cap Number: $3,150,000 (2017) Adding, to their perspective teams in which they played for, head to head Patriots 36 wins in those 3 years, Rams 33. ( Don't pull the Brady card crying the Pats had the GOAT!) Ever more an addition for their careers: REX BURKHEAD: 4.1 Y/A per gameTODD GURLEY: 4.2 Y/A per gameThat kinda math and production a good GM does not make.And by the way, I never stated that Rex was better than Todd, I said Todd was over rated. And all the excuses above say in the least he fell short of expectation. On the otherside, Burkhead exceeded expectation. My kinda draft guy, my kinda player, my kind of team mate. And one has the BLING and the other doesn't!
|
|
MDDad
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 6,814
|
Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2021 14:46:15 GMT -8
Well, I'm betting you're never getting a job as an NFL general manager. I'm sure not too many people believe those 36 Patriot wins were due primarily to Rex Burkhead. If I expect 1,500 yards from Gurley, and he underperforms and gives me only 1,200, I'd still take that over expecting 100 hundred yards from Burkhead and he gives me 120. You've become almost as good as RSM at manipulating those selected metrics that serve your position. What's next? Terry Bradshaw over Tom Brady? |
|
Bick
Administrator 
Posts: 6,900
|
Post by Bick on Feb 2, 2021 15:32:31 GMT -8
|
|
SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 2, 2021 15:49:40 GMT -8
Miles per gallon boys and what it takes to get to the destination....... you over paid and didn't get laid! And again read, I never said nor stated Burkhead was a BETTER athlete or player, simply IMHO Gurley is over rated and not because he wasn't capable with physical talent, I doubted his mindset and desires to win.
P.S. This was fun, like old times arguing about sports instead of politics....!
|
|
Luca
Master Statesman
Posts: 1,316
|
Post by Luca on Feb 2, 2021 17:23:04 GMT -8
Wait a minute, here. The Rams had an outstanding offensive line when they went to the Super Bowl. They were part of the reason the Rams even made it. Whitworth was 3 years younger and they had an excellent left guard and center whose names I’ve forgotten but were let go to free agency, which even then I thought was a mistake. Now the O line is in trouble, but 3 years ago it was excellent. Possibly the NFL's best.
In his prime Gurley was superb. He was fast, ran with power and balance and was a very good receiver. His knee gave out on him a few games before the Super Bowl and the Rams kept it quiet so that other teams couldn’t prepare for it. Everybody was wondering why they weren’t playing him more and it was because of that arthritic knee, but the Rams weren’t were going to tip anybody off. It's a big part of the reason why the Rams got shut down in the Super Bowl. People give Belichek so much credit but in fact a lot of the credit goes to the Rams’ running game going to hell without Gurley.
Come on, SK. You give Burkhead, Edelman or Brady one leg to run on and let’s see how well they do. It's like saying Dick Butkus was a pussy because after he trashed his knee he couldn’t produce..................Luca
|
|
Bick
Administrator
Posts: 6,900
|
Post by Bick on Feb 2, 2021 20:15:02 GMT -8
Miles per gallon boys and what it takes to get to the destination....... you over paid and didn't get laid! And again read, I never said nor stated Burkhead was a BETTER athlete or player, simply IMHO Gurley is over rated and not because he wasn't capable with physical talent, I doubted his mindset and desires to win. P.S. This was fun, like old times arguing about sports instead of politics....! Fair enough. 2 RBs to pick from. One an overrated all pro, and the other a journeyman role player. You'd take the latter because he wants to win more. |
|
MDDad
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 6,814
|
Post by MDDad on Feb 2, 2021 22:33:07 GMT -8
If I had a choice between a team of 22 overrated all-pros or a team of 22 journeymen role players who want to win more, I'll take the all-pros seven days a week. Desire and attitude only make a difference if the talent levels are somewhat comparable.
|
|
SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 3, 2021 5:59:15 GMT -8
Well, you would not see Goff do this......
|
|
Bick
Administrator
Posts: 6,900
|
Post by Bick on Feb 3, 2021 7:13:18 GMT -8
That was pure BADASS!
|
|
SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 3, 2021 7:28:39 GMT -8
Goff woulda folded like a paper tiger. |
|
MDDad
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 6,814
|
Post by MDDad on Feb 9, 2021 17:50:29 GMT -8
It's been announced that the Super Bowl last Sunday had the lowest ratings in 15 years. I can't even begin to imagine why.
|
|
SK80
Master Eminence Grise
Posts: 7,376
|
Post by SK80 on Feb 9, 2021 18:13:21 GMT -8
It's been announced that the Super Bowl last Sunday had the lowest ratings in 15 years. I can't even begin to imagine why. whats crazy is you have the two biggest names maybe in NFL right now the LEGEND and the best present player in the league. Small market teams usually don't show that well on ratings yet I wonder if its the TIRED of WOKE SPORTS or the LOCKDOWN DONAT HAVE A PARTY or GATHER thing...? |
|
