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Post by duke on Nov 6, 2020 10:58:46 GMT -8
At the end of the day, Trump shot himself in the foot with his behavior on Twitter and elsewhere. He demonstrated the inability to comport himself with any semblance of restraint while in a position of power so poorly, that he lost to those two. With his record v theirs, he should have carried EVERY state. This defeat is more humiliating than Hillary in 2016. I totally disagree, I have learned to tune out his annoying comments and tweets, and focus on what he has done to support my values and our country. His lack of decorum on social media is no way as ugly as the actions of the Left and the direction they want to take America. I take the good with the bad and the good far outweighs what we're in for now. |
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Post by Oakley on Nov 6, 2020 11:24:19 GMT -8
I agree, Bick. This loss is on Trump more than on anyone else. Four years ago, Hillary was a thoroughly unlikable and uninspiring candidate and Trump was the funny, outrageous outsider who was really going to shake things up. Four years later, he's no longer an outsider, and his childish rhetoric and nasty personal insults have become stale and bitter. I disagree. Why are you discounting election fraud by Democrats? |
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Post by Oakley on Nov 6, 2020 11:26:51 GMT -8
At the end of the day, Trump shot himself in the foot with his behavior on Twitter and elsewhere. He demonstrated the inability to comport himself with any semblance of restraint while in a position of power so poorly, that he lost to those two. With his record v theirs, he should have carried EVERY state. This defeat is more humiliating than Hillary in 2016. I disagree and I will ask you the same question. Why are you discounting election fraud? |
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Post by duke on Nov 6, 2020 11:27:11 GMT -8
How you can blame Trump in the face of this in your face cheating is like we're giving up. We let them do this with no consequences this time, they'll be emboldened to continue. Perhaps we can actually use this to start a dialog about Voter ID?
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Post by MDDad on Nov 6, 2020 12:03:56 GMT -8
I agree, Bick. This loss is on Trump more than on anyone else. Four years ago, Hillary was a thoroughly unlikable and uninspiring candidate and Trump was the funny, outrageous outsider who was really going to shake things up. Four years later, he's no longer an outsider, and his childish rhetoric and nasty personal insults have become stale and bitter. I disagree. Why are you discounting election fraud by Democrats? I'm not. There are many reasons for this loss, with voter fraud being one factor. But it WAS a loss, and it was against a stiff and a communist. Trump should have beaten them by 30 million votes. Voter fraud alone can't be blamed for that huge underperformance, and I've spoken with too many people who think Trump's shtick has just grown old. Nothing stays funny forever (except Seinfeld reruns), and Trump is no exception. |
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Post by duke on Nov 6, 2020 12:44:40 GMT -8
The Left and Dems hates all Republicans, no matter who they are. I just read a FB post where they were seriously hating on Mike Pence. That's pretty sickening when you think of it. They hated Reagan, both Bush's ( especially the younger, and even Romney. That's who they are. At least Trump would shove it back in their faces, unlike the others.
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Post by Bick on Nov 6, 2020 13:17:58 GMT -8
At the end of the day, Trump shot himself in the foot with his behavior on Twitter and elsewhere. He demonstrated the inability to comport himself with any semblance of restraint while in a position of power so poorly, that he lost to those two. With his record v theirs, he should have carried EVERY state. This defeat is more humiliating than Hillary in 2016. I totally disagree, I have learned to tune out his annoying comments and tweets, and focus on what he has done to support my values and our country. His lack of decorum on social media is no way as ugly as the actions of the Left and the direction they want to take America. I take the good with the bad and the good far outweighs what we're in for now. I'm not saying I didn't vote for him... I did actually this time around. I think Trump / Pence is far better for the US than Biden / Harris, and it ain't even close. You and I may have tuned out his childish antics, but many obviously did not. I have a hard time believing there was widespread voter fraud without clear evidence of it. Fact is, he should have left no doubt given his track record of achievement as POTUS. He let this election become about his personality with his dumb name calling stuff. |
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Post by davidsf on Nov 6, 2020 13:31:28 GMT -8
Completely disagree.
by my observation, forces that hate the U.S. and want to see her brought down have been planning and perfecting the theft of the Presidency for years. Maybe even decades.
there have been enough examples of fraud so far this election year, I believe they have been successful.
You cannot rationally believe the American voter preferred a bumbling, infirm Biden and a violent reprobate Harris even given Trumps puerile behavior.
i don’t mind standing alone on this mountain proclaiming this, but I know I am not.
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Post by Bick on Nov 6, 2020 14:45:48 GMT -8
I'm not going to completely discount or ignore the possibility of some conspiracy theory to steal the election, but I need evidence to stand on that soapbox with you.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 6, 2020 16:33:45 GMT -8
I'm not going to completely discount or ignore the possibility of some conspiracy theory to steal the election, but I need evidence to stand on that soapbox with you. Unfortunately everyone will believe me when it comes about. |
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Post by thefrog on Nov 6, 2020 16:53:53 GMT -8
I'm not going to completely discount or ignore the possibility of some conspiracy theory to steal the election, but I need evidence to stand on that soapbox with you. +1 to this. And it doesn't help that Trump has cried wolf/ made crazy allegations before... looking at you Birthers. |
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Post by duke on Nov 6, 2020 17:59:04 GMT -8
They stole it in plain sight. Google, You Tube, Twitter, and Facebook. Censorship and algorithms.
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Post by SK80 on Nov 6, 2020 20:29:47 GMT -8
I'm not going to completely discount or ignore the possibility of some conspiracy theory to steal the election, but I need evidence to stand on that soapbox with you. Unfortunately everyone will believe me when it comes about. |
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Post by Bick on Nov 6, 2020 22:04:23 GMT -8
I'm not going to completely discount or ignore the possibility of some conspiracy theory to steal the election, but I need evidence to stand on that soapbox with you. +1 to this. And it doesn't help that Trump has cried wolf/ made crazy allegations before... looking at you Birthers. Sucks being held accountable for your behavior. If he had acted with integrity, and left the BS with the left, he's far and away the best POTUS. Instead, he'll go down as a pariah. What a shame. I absolutely loved that he really put our interests over the pussy globalist agenda from the last guy. |
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Post by MDDad on Nov 6, 2020 22:31:36 GMT -8
What a shame. I absolutely loved that he really put our interests over the pussy globalist agenda from the last guy. Or the pussy globalist agenda of the next guy. And by next guy I mean Kamala Harris. |
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